1870 LCW, Canada, 50 cents --- Obverse 1 or Obverse 2? [gelöst]

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Good evening Numista!
I recently acquired this AG3 - 1870 LCW - Canada - 50 cents coin.
I do my best to identify for myself any variation and am pragmatic. When I placed this coin under the scope, I got a bit of a jolt. Being an AG3, there isn't much to help with the ident. I was particularly drawn to the ribbon details and can't shake off the feeling that this might be an Obverse 1 (wishing, of course).
I would greatly appreciate any feedback.
Regards,
Roland
Rancheria
There's a much easier way to differentiate obv. 1 from obv. 2.

Can you show a picture of the frontal part of the queen's crown?

Oh, and have a look at my post about all this.
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Good a.m.
Thank you for such a prompt reply.
As requested, here are a few more photos.
Regards,
Roland
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Rancheria
There is a shamrock behind the first jewel, which means that it's obverse 2.

On obverse 1 there is no shamrock. All other variants ─i.e. obv. 2 to 4─ have a shamrock in that position.

The coin I linked was being sold as "no LCW" on eBay and right away I could see it was just a worn out LCW. The shamrock gave it away. They grade their own coins, but didn't know that basic fact. At least they relisted the coin... from $1000 to $50!!

I suppose one has to make sure that the shamrock has not been removed when looking to buy an LCW.
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GOT IT! Thank you so much for that detail.
I've been using the Charlton catalogue for some years now, and that detail is not there. When I look at the photos this catalogue provides, it's obvious and apparent even on an AG3.
Again, thank you for the feedback!
Roland
Rancheria
Status geändert zu Gelöst (Rollie, 3 Feb. 2022, 16:32)
You're welcome.

In my 2019 edition of the Charlton, they do say it, but without any emphasis on this very obvious detail. It's just in the description, thus:

"There is no shamrock behind first jewel of crown."

On top of it, the close-up crown detail cuts just below the shamrock!
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