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marc scott clarke
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Gesendet: 23 Sept. 2013, 18:44 #
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Hi - I have just got this coin and the finish of it just does not seem right; sadly I don't have precision scales to verify its weight. What do you think guys - real or fake ??

thanks in advance Marc
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tony_k_1965
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Gesendet: 23 Sept. 2013, 19:37 #
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looks genuine to me just been cleaned
bam777
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Gesendet: 23 Sept. 2013, 20:01 #
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I'm really not sure: the engravers marks seem to be fudged to me!
marc scott clarke
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Gesendet: 23 Sept. 2013, 20:28 #
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Since I have scanned the coin I have also noticed this fault part of the 'D' is missing
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tony_k_1965
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Gesendet: 23 Sept. 2013, 21:24 #
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If it's a copy it will be 38.5mm diameter and not 38mm also thickness of a copy is 4mm where as the genuine one should be 2.9mm.
see this link
http://www.sterlingcurrency.com.au/research/new-counterfeit-kids-block-chinese-dud-coins
marc scott clarke
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Gesendet: 23 Sept. 2013, 21:33 #
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Nice link , thanks Tony .The dimensions correspond with a genuine coin  :)
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neilithic
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Gesendet: 23 Sept. 2013, 22:03 #
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I don't know why someone would fake them.  They're not that rare and expensive.  They usually sell over here for $30-$35, but there does seem to be something a little off with the coin.
markdcoin
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Gesendet: 25 Sept. 2013, 17:56 #
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The lettering and denticles look bizarre. Without seeing it in person I would say it is authentic. However, it looks altered; like it has been whizzed (http://cointerms.com/glossary/w_definitions.htm), and not very well. That would explain the damaged "D" and some of the finer lettering being worn unnaturally.
marc scott clarke
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Gesendet: 25 Sept. 2013, 18:29 #
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Hi Mark I think you may be right
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KennyG
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Gesendet: 26 Sept. 2013, 19:11 #
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I don't know about you guys, but it looks cast, especially on the obverse.
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markdcoin
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Gesendet: 26 Sept. 2013, 19:33 #
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Does it have a nice ring to it when you tap the rim with a pen or something while balancing it on your finger? If not it is probably cast (or recovered from a shipwreck...which is not the case here I think :)) A nice long ring is characteristic of a struck coin.
markdcoin
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Gesendet: 26 Sept. 2013, 19:37 #
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Of struck *silver* coins.
marc scott clarke
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Gesendet: 26 Sept. 2013, 22:08 #
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it does have a really nice ring, when I tap it
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marc scott clarke
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Gesendet: 20 Okt. 2013, 16:21 #
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Well I finally have a precision scale and the coin weighs only 19 grams , so therefore a fake
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ZuluRaptorSpace
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Gesendet: 22 Okt. 2013, 01:59 #
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Definately was something off about it. The first colon on the right of the crown's top on the reverse right had the bottom of a circle, and the top of an elongated diamond. Well, let's see how bad it is... how much did you pay for it?
ZuluRaptorSpace
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Gesendet: 22 Okt. 2013, 02:01 #
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Looks zinc or steel. Probably the former, as steel does not have that nice ring. Take a magnet to it.
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