I know nothing about Morgan Dollars other than what I've managed to find on line. This one attracted me in the shop, but then I read that they were often faked and began to have doubts. It is 38 mm but only 25.8 grams. Would the lack of proper weight make it a fake? It does seem to be silver - but what do - I- know!
Any way I bought it!
Thema verschoben nach "Numismatic questions"(ZacUK, 11 Nov. 2020, 16:48)
The weight difference is of great concern because your coin does not show enough wear to account for a 1 gram difference unless your scale is off.. Most likely a fairly decent fake.
I live in the United States so I know a fair amount about Morgan dollars. I have a few of them myself.
Morgan Dollars are probably the most collected coin in the United States because it has a great design and it is 90% silver. They were minted from 1878 to 1904 (and in 1921.) In average condition, they weigh about 26.75 grams so it is a little odd that yours weighs only 25.8 grams. The diameter is indeed 38 mm so that is right. You can typically pickup Morgan Dollars for about 25-30 USD in circulated condition. The only rare Morgan Dollars have a CC mint mark under the wreath on the reverse.
Depending on how much you bought it for, it might be a good idea to tell the shop owner that it is a fake and he might give you a refund because he shouldn't be selling fake coins. I hope this helped, let me know if you have any more questions.
Verweis : "harryg"The weight difference is of great concern because your coin does not show enough wear to account for a 1 gram difference unless your scale is off.. Most likely a fairly decent fake.
That's what I thought.. Well, at least it's a fairly decent fake. Thanks.
Verweis : "mkruse"I live in the United States so I know a fair amount about Morgan dollars. I have a few of them myself.
Morgan Dollars are probably the most collected coin in the United States because it has a great design and it is 90% silver. They were minted from 1878 to 1904 (and in 1921.) In average condition, they weigh about 26.75 grams so it is a little odd that yours weighs only 25.8 grams. The diameter is indeed 38 mm so that is right. You can typically pickup Morgan Dollars for about 25-30 USD in circulated condition. The only rare Morgan Dollars have a CC mint mark under the wreath on the reverse.
Depending on how much you bought it for, it might be a good idea to tell the shop owner that it is a fake and he might give you a refund because he shouldn't be selling fake coins. I hope this helped, let me know if you have any more questions.
He's a nice man in Thessalonika, the seller, I've known him for some years, and I'm sure he wouldn't knowingly sell me a fake. It was only 15 euro so I'll put it down to lesson learning. and I'll mention it to him when I see him next. It is a very nice coin....
Coin is a Chinese fake, date looks wrong and the coin looks fake worn. Has that horrible leady colour you find on lower quality Chinese fakes. Likely lead or lead plated brass.
I love coins. Especially silver, gold and anything really old.
Member of the Royal Numismatic Society of New Zealand and the Auckland Numismatic Society
Amazed how any serious collector or even dabbling collector would fool for those low quality Chinese fakes. I mean they have wear yet say MS68. MS68 would be blinding sheen and worth kazillions of dollars considering the best Morgans (Excluding modern reissues dated 2021 onwards) usually grade 66 or 67 and are so rare that NGC and PCGS keep registries and population stats of coins as this level.
Those fakes show the level of contempt the Chinese have for us Westerners.
Finally, its open season here for halfwits to show us fake coins they picked up from Flea Markets and certain viral online sites that come from a country known for communism, fakes, no human rights and being a world threat with their anti social communism and resistance to everything good and fair.
I love coins. Especially silver, gold and anything really old.
Member of the Royal Numismatic Society of New Zealand and the Auckland Numismatic Society