Help to identify this old coin please!

This is a copper coin presume from Germany?

Please help to identify

The second picture has F B lettering for Ferdinand of Bavaria ...
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces93190.html 24mm
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces48927.html 25mm

Apart from the size difference, the reverse of the second
coin has slightly different lettering ...

KM# 37
FERDINAND D G EP LEO // DVX BVL MAR FRANCHI CO LO

KM# 42
FERDINAND D G EP LEO // DVX BVL MAR FRANCH CO LO HO Z

Verweis : "ZacUK"​ The second picture has F B lettering for Ferdinand of Bavaria ...
​https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces93190.html 24mm
​https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces48927.html 25mm

​These 2 pictures are from 1 coin, and the strike is really strange.
Letters on 2nd picture is engraved not carved.

Verweis : "ZacUK"​ Apart from the size difference, the reverse of the second
​coin has slightly different lettering ...
​
​KM# 37
​FERDINAND D G EP LEO // DVX BVL MAR FRANCHI CO LO
​
​KM# 42
​FERDINAND D G EP LEO // DVX BVL MAR FRANCH CO LO HO Z

​Maybe it is from
Prince-bishopric of Liege
??

Yes, that is where those two links are.
And yes, I know your pictures are from the same coin.

C’est une piece de Gronsveld. 

Netherlands › Dutch States › Gronsveld, Lordship of 

 Thanks - adding this link to the 2021 topic > 

N#384115  

 

LI BARO IN BATT ET RIM

Liberi Baronis in Batemburg et Rimburg

 

Reverse
Letters E (Eberstein) and B (Batenburg), separated by a long cross above a G (Gronsfeld).

IVS MAXI CO DE GRON BR

Iustus Maximilianus Comes de Gronsvelt et Bronkhorst