Belgium: 5 centimes 1930, numista catalog. [gelöst]

I have my doubts about the 1931 with a star.

I always thought the km67 were without a star, confirmed by KM edt 46!

So the comment on the 1930 line should disappear, the lines 1931, one should disappear and the the other without comment.

Unfortunately I do NOT have a Belgian coin catalog, so I cannot prove anything.

Can anybody help me further, please?

Take care
Ole

Hello, i've found this

-https://www.ibelgica.be/catalogue/Belgium-1831-2001/1/category/1673/5-Centiem/17

Indeed Ole, the three last lines on this page should disappear (reference Aernout, 2016)

- 1930 and 1931 without star do not exist (users to be moved to correct coins with these years, but WITH star on https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces5956.html)
- 1931 with star does exist on other page (users should be moved to page https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces5956.html

I guess we now need the super-powers of a (master?)referee to move the users and delete these 3 lines ...

Without star:
1930 Flemish1931 Flemish1932 FrenchBut with question markt for mintages, so probably rather hard to find.
These dates also exist WITH star and easier to find. Just remember that there are Flemish and french variants.

Tony.

Verweis : "BramVB"​Indeed Ole, the three last lines on this page should disappear (reference Aernout, 2016)

​Don't be to quickly. In the official catalog Eyckmans/Morin, edilton 2018, the 1930Fl and 1931Fl are definitely mentioned!:



The 1931Fl with star is not mentioned in Aernout nor in Eyckmans/Morin, the two leading catalogs for Belgium, so I guess it's safe to remove that line, but NOT the 1930Fl and 1931Fl without star.

Verweis : "Newtony"​​1930 Flemish 1931 Flemish
​These dates also exist WITH star and easier to find.

Tony, ​that's only partially correct. These dates exist and are easier to find BUT these are another type (KM# 94), made of another composition, maillechort (= copper 75%, nickel 15%, zinc 10%) instead of copper 75% - nickel 25 % (KM# 67).

Tony
My catalogue (Aernout, version from 2016) only mentions Flemish coins with star for 1930 and 1931.
It also warns that there are fake versions of the French version from 1932 without star, where the star (of the more common version) has been filed away.

Just read Essor Prof's message ... we have conflicting catalogues then, will throw out mine :(
But, please reread your message, because 1931Fl with star does exist ... but indeed does not belong on that coinpage ;)

Verweis : "BramVB"​My catalogue (Aernout, version from 2016) only mentions Flemish coins with star for 1930 and 1931.
​It also warns that there are fake versions of the French version from 1932 without star, where the star (of the more common version) has been filed away.​

​The same warning is in Eyckmans/Morin for the Flemish 1930 and 1931 (but it was on the next page):

Hi,

so the change request for numista would be like this ?

I can live with that. "Without star" after the year line is very redundant since all the years of this type are without star.
And I have no idea how that 1931FL with star came in our catalog. It's not in Krause, nor in the two leading Belgian catalogs.

I hope the intention is clear to remove the 1931 with star yearline, and remove "Without star" after the yearlines of 1930 and 1931, and NOT adding your documentation in the comment sector. Maybe you can send a message to smy77 with a link to this thread to be sure.

I would suggest to keep a comment in those 2 lines, as quite a few of the coins in those line are probably already wrongly placed KM# 94 coins ...

I guess we can agree (for once?) that these are rare coins (anyone out here who has non-manipulated ones?) so maybe a comment like this:
"Rare, not to be confused with KM# 94". Might prevent quite some wrong attributions ...

And we should also put a link to KM# 94 on the page!