Worcester City and County 1 Penny token 1811

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Trying to find out a little more information on this token, such as what it was issued for, and obvious selling/swap value.
Looked in the Numista listings and could not find it.

Eventually, I hope to swap it for coins and/or banknotes, as I do not collect tokens

I can add it to Numista, if someone can tell me exactly which sub-section of Exonumia it goes in, please

Dimensions:-
Diameter 35.5mm
Weight 27.83grms
Thickness approx 2.7mm
Material Copper (I think)

Edge has an angled milling in the centre, with smooth outer edges

Translated wording on reverse. The City faithful in war and in peace

I'm just a collector of coins, not a slave to it, unless I am in a coin shop.
For all you banknote collectors. Link to my swap list.
https://colnect.com/en/banknotes/list/swap_list/COINMAN1
If you go to https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces197987.html you will find your Token and information Regarding.
Ian.
Ian,
Yes, that's the 1/2 penny version of the 1 penny I have. Seems I mis-spelt the first word. No wonder why it would not translate completely.
Geoff
I'm just a collector of coins, not a slave to it, unless I am in a coin shop.
For all you banknote collectors. Link to my swap list.
https://colnect.com/en/banknotes/list/swap_list/COINMAN1
Ian,
This token is listed later on the Numista listings, but due to poor photographs, I am not too sure if it might be the same one, which means I do not need to add it.

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces178049.html

Your thoughts please

Geoff
I'm just a collector of coins, not a slave to it, unless I am in a coin shop.
For all you banknote collectors. Link to my swap list.
https://colnect.com/en/banknotes/list/swap_list/COINMAN1
British provincial 1/2 penny tokens, issued in the 1790s, are generally referred to as "Conder" tokens, because James Conder published the first comprehensive catalog on them. These tokens disappeared from circulation when the so-called 1797 "cartwheel" pennies where issued. Subsequently, in the 1811-1820 period, private mints started issuing one penny tokens. Since the best catalog on the subject was issued by Paul and Bente Withers, I tend to call them Withers tokens. You have Withers # 1243, see here for more info:
https://www.abccoinsandtokens.com/W.1243.001.html
Steve27,
What a fantastic piece of information. Tells me 100% of what I want to know.

If you go back to the previous reply from me, do you think the coin in the link is the same as mine?
I do not want to list it again unnecessarily.

It does have a different Withers number
I'm just a collector of coins, not a slave to it, unless I am in a coin shop.
For all you banknote collectors. Link to my swap list.
https://colnect.com/en/banknotes/list/swap_list/COINMAN1
Whithers 1248 and 1249 are very similar, and there is not enough detail to determine which you have (and the one on Numista is even worse). Thus, I would suggest submitting your image to replace the one shown on Numista.
Steve27,
Earlier on this forum topic, you stated it was Withers 1243, so I am still confused
I'm just a collector of coins, not a slave to it, unless I am in a coin shop.
For all you banknote collectors. Link to my swap list.
https://colnect.com/en/banknotes/list/swap_list/COINMAN1
There are many varieties as far as I can see in Davis catalog yours match #17 (if I count these berries correctly).


Andy289,
That is another awesome bit of information.
I will add it to the Numista catalogue this weekend with the reference number Withers#1243
I'm just a collector of coins, not a slave to it, unless I am in a coin shop.
For all you banknote collectors. Link to my swap list.
https://colnect.com/en/banknotes/list/swap_list/COINMAN1
Due to the fact that I have two coins waiting for validation for two weeks, I have decided not to add this token to Numista.
I contacted a senior member of Numista when I listed the coins, but heard nothing, and coins are still pending.
I'm just a collector of coins, not a slave to it, unless I am in a coin shop.
For all you banknote collectors. Link to my swap list.
https://colnect.com/en/banknotes/list/swap_list/COINMAN1
Definitely deserves listing as a coin, as it circulated during a coin shortage in the 1810's.

Aidan.
One of the coins has been waiting since July 16th, and I know referee has been on the website, as he answered a question on the forum.
Also contacted a senior administrator two days after I added the coin, as the referee for the country in question, had failed to validate a few others I listed, but this senior administrator did.
I'm just a collector of coins, not a slave to it, unless I am in a coin shop.
For all you banknote collectors. Link to my swap list.
https://colnect.com/en/banknotes/list/swap_list/COINMAN1
I have got both the 1/2 Penny & the 1 Penny in my collection - along with the silver 1 Shilling.

Aidan.
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