8 Reales 1771 grade VF, XF, AU?

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Hello everyone, im curious about the grade of this coin, I know of course it has a hole but I want to know if you would grade VF, XF or AU. Thank you
Gee these are tough to grade. To my eye, I would judge this at a VF30 but a little too much wear to warrant a XF40. Certainly not anywhere near AU. I compared yours to this Certified AU example as this was the best example I could find. Fortunately for us it was cleaned and easy to see the difference in details.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/264406358464?hash=item3d8fd8d9c0:g:KhsAAOSwA3ldNdDp
I think it looks like a VF35 but these are difficult to grade because of how flat the design is. This one was graded as an XF and has much less detail than yours (seems incredibly overgraded to me but what do I know compared to the all-knowing grading companies)
I would answer this by doing research on CoinArchives, or eBay (like @AgIs) comparing to examples graded by the major TPGs.

Here is a VF-30: https://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotviewer.php?LotID=5161398&AucID=5809&Lot=72228&Val=3362e28ed54ae5e1887fbbe5d9bd5570

You have the link provided by AgIs for an EF Details

Here is a AU details with a hole like yours: https://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotviewer.php?LotID=5161397&AucID=5809&Lot=72227&Val=eaaf0c55d0bf06c15ead81fe20b1b554

So, now you can get your answer by deciding which one is closest to yours.

It is interesting to note that the AU details Holed specimen sold for $240, a reminder that holed coins have plenty of numismatic value if it is the right coin.
Verweis : "tdziemia"​I would answer this by doing research on CoinArchives, or eBay (like @AgIs) comparing to examples graded by the major TPGs.

​Here is a VF-30: https://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotviewer.php?LotID=5161398&AucID=5809&Lot=72228&Val=3362e28ed54ae5e1887fbbe5d9bd5570

​You have the link provided by AgIs for an EF Details

​Here is a AU details with a hole like yours: https://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotviewer.php?LotID=5161397&AucID=5809&Lot=72227&Val=eaaf0c55d0bf06c15ead81fe20b1b554

​So, now you can get your answer by deciding which one is closest to yours.

​It is interesting to note that the AU details Holed specimen sold for $240, a reminder that holed coins have plenty of numismatic value if it is the right coin.



​I believe the question was "what would you grade it at".
As indicated in AgIs post the coin would appear to be not less than XF details by U.S. TPG standards.
I should have mentioned in that earlier post that the AU details you posted can also be used in any comparison.

And now the OP can also see how to do his/her own research to answer such a question.
No. That example of the XF graded coin is clearly over graded and even mentioned by the poster. Older slabbed coins, especially coins foreign to the U.S. . were often over graded and got more refined as the grading industry matured over time. That coin does not have XF details and would not grade at XF if submitted today, period. This is why you buy he coin and not the slab. I used an example of the same date, same coin, very clear details, and the OP's coin does not even come close to the AU example and only approaches a truly XF example. The details are simply not there on the OP's example.
Well, to my eye the OP's coin is clearly sharper than the VF coin I linked and the XF details coin linked by @AgIs, both graded by TPGs. I would find it hard for anyone to disagree with that assessment.

The TPGs are the professionals, and as best I can tell the North American market uses their grading as benchmarks.

That's pretty much where I leave things in discussions like this, and will now, too.
Compare coins, not slabs. I took the finest example of the exact OP's coin I could find and deducted from there. That's exactly how TPG parties learn over the years to more accurately grade coins. The better the examples they received to compare to, the more refined they became at grading them. Grade the coin regardless of what it claims to be on the slab. The AU example is perfect for comparing his coin.
Thema verschoben nach "Numismatic questions" (ZacUK, 17 Aug. 2021, 18:26)
Yeah I would grade this as VF

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