1870 Spanish 10 centimos with odd counter stamp. [gelöst]

Hello everyone,

I came across this coin in a lot that I purchased. It has a stamped triangle with a dot in the center. May be a symbol for an all seeing eye. I have looked for information on the web and have not had any luck. Does anyone have any idea about this stamp. I have only been collecting for a couple years and there's so much to learn with this hobby that I have not learned much about counter stamped coins. Thanks in advance for any information and everyone's time.

Sincerely,
Jimmy K

Hello,

It's almost certainly a private countermark, though it's hard to know exactly what it looks like since the picture is so dark.

As a private countermark, it will likely never be identified since there is no word or letters to help. With a little chance, this is a meaningful symbol, possibly in Spain. So, maybe it can be identified? The best way to go about it is to search in Google Images for symbols. In this case, the late 1860s and early 1870s being a troubled period in Spain, there is a possibility that this is a symbol linked with a pro- or anti-Isabella II faction (she had been overthrown in 1868), or pro- or anti-Amadeo I or Alfonso XII factions.

I have a thread on countermarks with lots of information, but many of the links are now broken.

Please post decent images, where it's possible to see what the question is about.

Thanks

Thanks for the info. Here's a little better photo I hope.

Verweis : "Jimmy K"​Thanks
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​Thanks for the info. Here's a little better photo I hope.

​no it isnt, glare on holder film, too dark, not focused, but thanks anyway.
Very interesting countermark. the possibilities mentioned above suggest historical study topics.

I thought this was a place to get some help. Obviously it's a place to criticize everything, everyone posts, in one form or another. How rude society has become.

If there are any polite and non-judgemental people still left out there I would appreciate some help with this.

Verweis : "Jimmy K"​I thought this was a place to get some help. Obviously it's a place to criticize everything, everyone posts, in one form or another. How rude society has become.

​This post will certainly help you getting an answer! I see three answers on your original post: one is extremely helpful, one is asking in a friendly way (using the word "please") to add better pictures, the third one gives you an honest answer on your quote ("Here's a little better photo I hope") in a very friendly way.
And then they get an answer like yours. Talking about rude.

You can see for yourself your picture isn't well. Try to make pictures with the coin outside the holder. It's a holder with staples, easy to open and reuse the holder again. Or make a high-resolution scan (1200 dpi) which will give a lot of detail.

Verweis : "Jimmy K"​Obviously it's a place to criticize everything
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​Wow, what a victim mentality!
You got great possible answers with very little info, and some constructive criticism.
Learning to take a good photo will go a long way, especially if you ever try to sell your coins on the internet. Not everyone is out to get you.

The point of me posting this in the forum was to get answers, not to have my photography skills critiqued by everyone. It's a triangle with a dot which can be seen in the photos and hand drawn exactly as it appears at the bottom of the coin flip. Other than the first couple answers which helped some, the rest is useless information that does me no good. So thanks but no thanks.

After observing your curious sense of self-criticism, I am going to try to contribute something that I hope will serve you. I am from Spain and I had never seen that type of countermark, so Camerinvs, in its first response, must be right and it must be a private countermark. In what I can contribute something is in making a correction to the legend that you put on the cardboard of the coin: it is not 1870 CM, but 1870 OM, corresponding to Oeschger Mesdach & Co, a private company from Barcelona (Spain) in charge of the mintage of this coin.

Verweis : "Jimmy K"​The point of me posting this in the forum was to get answers, not to have my photography skills critiqued by everyone. It's a triangle with a dot which can be seen in the photos and hand drawn exactly as it appears at the bottom of the coin flip. Other than the first couple answers which helped some, the rest is useless information that does me no good. So thanks but no thanks.

Please calm down, when it's NOT possible to see what you talk about, because your images are not good enough, then the problem lies where? At the person looking, or in the image itself. Please do some thinking before accusing anybody of NOT wanting to help you. We all did, but the basis you gave us, was simply not good enough, hence the complaints.

Our motto still is, help us to help you

Take care

Verweis : "oynbcn"​After observing your curious sense of self-criticism, I am going to try to contribute something that I hope will serve you. I am from Spain and I had never seen that type of countermark, so Camerinvs, in its first response, must be right and it must be a private countermark. In what I can contribute something is in making a correction to the legend that you put on the cardboard of the coin: it is not 1870 CM, but 1870 OM, corresponding to Oeschger Mesdach & Co, a private company from Barcelona (Spain) in charge of the mintage of this coin.

Thank you for your help and information and mint mark correction. I appreciate the help. I will research this company you have mentioned.

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Verweis : "Jimmy K"​The point of me posting this in the forum was to get answers, not to have my photography skills critiqued by everyone. It's a triangle with a dot which can be seen in the photos and hand drawn exactly as it appears at the bottom of the coin flip. Other than the first couple answers which helped some, the rest is useless information that does me no good. So thanks but no thanks.

​Please calm down, when it's NOT possible to see what you talk about, because your images are not good enough, then the problem lies where? At the person looking, or in the image itself. Please do some thinking before accusing anybody of NOT wanting to help you. We all did, but the basis you gave us, was simply not good enough, hence the complaints.
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​Our motto still is, help us to help you
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​Take care

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Verweis : "Jimmy K"​

Verweis : "oynbcn"​After observing your curious sense of self-criticism, I am going to try to contribute something that I hope will serve you. I am from Spain and I had never seen that type of countermark, so Camerinvs, in its first response, must be right and it must be a private countermark. In what I can contribute something is in making a correction to the legend that you put on the cardboard of the coin: it is not 1870 CM, but 1870 OM, corresponding to Oeschger Mesdach & Co, a private company from Barcelona (Spain) in charge of the mintage of this coin.
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​Thank you for your help and information and mint mark correction. I appreciate the help. I will research this company you have mentioned.
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​You're welcome