PVC Damage?

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Hello all, I recently dipped a Meiji Yen I have due to a very unattractive toning & good details, but this is what I discovered underneath it.

Is this some kind of PVC damage? Should sitting it in acetone for a few hours fix it up?
1. Who knows? It could be some other type of corrosion
2. It can't hurt (dipping is far more harsh treatment than acetone).
Hello
I don't think it will remove this rust solvent, I don't think it's PVC coating. Another metal is mixed into silver, it is not pure 999 silver, and the admixture gained rust due to storage, the effect of a chemical reaction from the environment.
I will not write how, get a translator from Czech and you need to change your mind if you do something-You removed the prettiest on the coins here and it's a patina.
Even in your country, there are a lot of works and long articles, as well as hundreds of procedures and opinions:

https://cs.puntomarinero.com/patina-what-is-it-natural/

https://www.twicz.com/novinky/cistit-nebo-necistit-mince-co-radi-numismatik/

https://www.numismatikasova.cz/radce/jak-vycisti-stribro-stribrne-mince-stribrne-mince/

http://www.numismatika.com/?page_id=404

https://www.lovecpokladu.cz/home/cisteni-minci-ala-numismatik-1744

Etc. etc. How many numismatists so many opinions - now I have set a definition!

Ahoj Ivan
it looks fine to me. those are normal silver tarnish tones. you would do more harm than good to remove it.
Jamais l'or n'a perdu la plus petite occasion de se montrer stupide. -Balzac
Every time I see these "NO, NO, NO!" to cleaning coins, I remember restoration and INTENSIVE cleaning of works of art: medieval paintings, frescoes... Only after cleaning these works showed their true beauty and value. Any reason this should be different for coins?!
Verweis : "Mr. Midnight"​it looks fine to me. those are normal silver tarnish tones. you would do more harm than good to remove it.
​They aren't, as the e-z-est would have removed them if that were the case.
Verweis : "Dejan"​Every time I see these "NO, NO, NO!" to cleaning coins, I remember restoration and INTENSIVE cleaning of works of art: medieval paintings, frescoes... Only after cleaning these works showed their true beauty and value. Any reason this should be different for coins?!
​Grading services do not consider proper dipping to be cleaning, this is considered restoration.
Did you try electrochemical reduction yet?
Verweis : "tdziemia"​Did you try electrochemical reduction yet?

​I wish you a nice Olympic weekend.
My wife bakes cakes so I took some powder for the chemical-electrical reaction. I was also looking for a large coin that may not have been destroyed, so I used a small one but there is little silver and more copper, at least it will be better to see what happens to copper.
I used a damaged and cheap coin for the experiment, Hungary, Ferdinand II, 1624, stamped in Kremnica.
There was really a lot of silver in this mint, and only then did the monarch insist that too, too little silver be put into the coins. ( simply the rulers then and today are the same turnover of us poor people as much as possible)
It's this coin:


coins before and after the experiment:


details (just please primine me, no art photos):
green corrosion before cleaning

after chemical - electrolysis for 10 minutes:
silver is pure and copper is brown-red.
It is necessary to use either preservative oil WD 40 or soak in vegetable oil, but it will catch the patina according to the type of oil.

What I used? instead of lemon I put a little pure citric acid powder (for cakes)
baking powder (soda)
Distilled water, and a drop of dishwashing liquid.

ultrasonic washing machine.

I don't know, but I wouldn't do it with more expensive coins, and I also think it's better than scrubbing with a cloth and brush.
Ivan
Hello
So I immersed the same solution and electro-ultrasound for only two minutes for gentle dry cleaning and applied the WD-40 foil. As an example, please let all numismatic gods forgive me and my Indian friend not get angry.
It's a victim for the show, in a hurry.
https://en.numista.com/forum/topic117049.html
under number 9 is the error , it will be deleted.


Ivan

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