Good day I am looking for seconde opinion if possible, I came across this Malacca money tree coin and have no idea if its real or not If there is anyone here who might help me out I would appriciate it. Thank you in advance!
Can you give me some explanation why do you thing its fake?
Let me throw the question back a bit. What makes you think its real? If you have some basic understanding of how money trees work, you would know immediately if it is fake or real…
Can you give me some explanation why do you thing its fake?
Let me throw the question back a bit. What makes you think its real? If you have some basic understanding of how money trees work, you would know immediately if it is fake or real…
Can you give me some explanation why do you thing its fake?
Let me throw the question back a bit. What makes you think its real? If you have some basic understanding of how money trees work, you would know immediately if it is fake or real…
Can you give me some explanation why do you thing its fake?
Let me throw the question back a bit. What makes you think its real? If you have some basic understanding of how money trees work, you would know immediately if it is fake or real…
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Can you give me some explanation why do you thing its fake?
Let me throw the question back a bit. What makes you think its real? If you have some basic understanding of how money trees work, you would know immediately if it is fake or real…
Numista, a unique platform to learn, collect, swap and share about numismatics.
Gotta love the reception of a new member trying to learn.
You need to understand that you learn by doing! Collecting indiscriminately without understanding what you bought is dangerous for both the collector and the coin community, in general. Its getting tiring when so-called collectors pick up coins without doing some basic reading or understanding and then post here to determine what they got, whether its fake, real, rare, what's its value is, etc…
I have to thank the individuals, on the other hand, who actually try to understand it and post their opinion while asking for help. Kudos to them!!!
Can you give me some explanation why do you thing its fake?
Let me throw the question back a bit. What makes you think its real? If you have some basic understanding of how money trees work, you would know immediately if it is fake or real…
Numista, a unique platform to learn, collect, swap and share about numismatics.
Gotta love the reception of a new member trying to learn.
You need to understand that you learn by doing! Collecting indiscriminately without understanding what you bought is dangerous for both the collector and the coin community, in general. Its getting tiring when so-called collectors pick up coins without doing some basic reading or understanding and then post here to determine what they got, whether its fake, real, rare, what's its value is, etc…
I have to thank the individuals, on the other hand, who actually try to understand it and post their opinion while asking for help. Kudos to them!!!
You need to understand that you learn by doing!
I think I already do understand that but thank you for the advice anyway.
I have to thank the individuals, on the other hand, who actually try to understand it
Isn't that exactly what the OP is doing, asking questions to try to understand? You're the expert. Surely you have some good resource sites you could have recommended to help the OP try to understand it. Declaring it a fake without any further explanation as to why is not helpful and very disappointing to those waiting to learn something from the experts, including me.
Can you give me some explanation why do you thing its fake?
Let me throw the question back a bit. What makes you think its real? If you have some basic understanding of how money trees work, you would know immediately if it is fake or real…
Numista, a unique platform to learn, collect, swap and share about numismatics.
Gotta love the reception of a new member trying to learn.
You need to understand that you learn by doing! Collecting indiscriminately without understanding what you bought is dangerous for both the collector and the coin community, in general. Its getting tiring when so-called collectors pick up coins without doing some basic reading or understanding and then post here to determine what they got, whether its fake, real, rare, what's its value is, etc…
I have to thank the individuals, on the other hand, who actually try to understand it and post their opinion while asking for help. Kudos to them!!!
You need to understand that you learn by doing!
I think I already do understand that but thank you for the advice anyway.
I have to thank the individuals, on the other hand, who actually try to understand it
Isn't that exactly what the OP is doing, asking questions to try to understand? You're the expert. Surely you have some good resource sites you could have recommended to help the OP try to understand it. Declaring it a fake without any further explanation as to why is not helpful and very disappointing to those waiting to learn something from the experts, including me.
If I had a resource site to give, I would have certainly provided it. Alas, there are no money trees like the one depicted for Malacca. Its a pure fabrication and a quick google would have indicated that. I usually don't delve into the details as to why things are fake as it just causes more harm than good. But, as a general rule, money trees were used during the casting of coins. As such, it should be relatively easy to pluck the coins off the tree to be used!
Its a pure fabrication and a quick google would have indicated that. I usually don't delve into the details as to why things are fake as it just causes more harm than good.
My quick google before your initial reply indicated this:
and as far as I know, there are no scholarly articles or books that even mention this coin with its supposedly ancient origins. Also, how do you snap it off??? You got to literally cut it off!
Not trying to convince anyone that these ever really existed, just that a google search does bring up enough hits to cause someone to ask the advice of the experts on Numista who shouldn't dismiss their questions out of hand.
It seems that the Southwest Savings and Loan replica coins ended up being separated and sold as legit coins, including the so-called “Oriental Money Tree”. Reading the description of the coin on their cardboard holder:
Originallymade of tin, coins were snapped off when needed leaving stem…But clearly NOT 1200 BCE! Coins didn't come into the picture until 500-600 BCE 🙄…
At first sight, it looks more like some kind of amulet than a Chinese or Japanese coin tree.
While the casts degraded with the time, and the replicas were less sharp than the matrices, it seems too irregular to be a real coin tree. At best, a coin-tree-shaped coin. I'm not an expert, though, I've just read one or two articles about them.
I am very Sorry for not answering for a long time I have waited for a coin to arrive bought it for 10 bucks from a antique diler from Croatia Dubrovnik.I found the same thing as Rsirian 1, when I googled it .. Hight 4.2cm width 3.8 cm on the lower branch…dont have a scale so i cannot weight it …but its not magnetic that all i can provide..
Here are few better pictures..
Yeah I have googled the Lydian Lion the oldest coin 600BC…and it confused me little bit since this is suppose to be 1200BC according to facebook post xD …
Thema verschoben nach "Numismatic questions"(ZacUK, 1 Jun. 2022, 17:10)
As quant geek sugested “As such, it should be relatively easy to pluck the coins off the tree to be used! ” …..Well f*** me …it was relativly easy to snap it off…
After 3222 years of people preserving this coin…it got in my hands and after 15min of having it I managed to break it…now i dont wish it to be real….couse if it is quant geek i will silenty hate you for a long time hahahaha
Yeah I have googled the Lydian Lion the oldest coin 600BC…and it confused me little bit since this is suppose to be 1200BC according to facebook post xD …
It also doesn't help that Malacca wasn't established until the early XV century.
I dont think you have anything to worry about. After reading through this thread there should be no doubt whatsoever about the authenticity of this artifact.
As quant geek sugested “As such, it should be relatively easy to pluck the coins off the tree to be used! ” …..Well f*** me …it was relativly easy to snap it off…
After 3222 years of people preserving this coin…it got in my hands and after 15min of having it I managed to break it…now i dont wish it to be real….couse if it is quant geek i will silenty hate you for a long time hahahaha
