Solothurn currencies [gelöst]

Hello,

Following a suggestion from Basteros, I suggest the addition of the description for the currencies of the city of Solothurn:

Pfennig (12-15th century)

1 Angster = 2 Pfennig = 4 Hälbling (Haller, Stebler)

Guldiner (15th century-1579)

1 Thaler (Guldiner) = 2 Breiter (Halbthaler) = 3 Dicken = 17 Batzens = 22⅔Groschen (~ 36¼ Plappart) = 68 Kreutzers = 108⅘ Fünfer = 272 Angster = 544 Pfennig = 1088 Haller (Hälbling, Stebler) • 1 Groschen = 3 Kreutzers = 8 Pfennig • 1 Plappart = 3 Fünfer = 15 Pfennig • 1 Vierer = 4 Pfennig = 8 Haller (Hälbling, Stebler) • 1 Ducat = 1 8⁄9 Thaler • 1 Sonnenkronen = 21 Batzen = 1 4⁄17 Thaler • 1 Gulden = 15 Batzen = 15⁄17 Thaler

Thaler (1622-1642)

1 Thaler = 3 Dicken = 17 Batzens = 68 Kreutzers = 136 Vierer = 544 Haller • 1 Ducat ~ 2 Thalers

Neuthaler (1760-1798)

1 Neuthaler = 2 Gulden = 4 Franken = 40 Batzens = 160 Kreutzers = 320 Vierer • 1 Ducat ~ 2 5⁄17 Thalers • 1 Dublone = 2⅕ Ducats ~ 4 1⁄17 Thalers

Sources:

SMK7 Slt

J. Simmen, Die Münzen von Solothurn, Vol. 1-3 (most info is from here, others less useful) 

M. Matzke, Die Frühzeit der Solothurner Münzprägung

M Körner et al., Währungen und Sortenkurse in der Schweiz

Thank you

Added. One has to admire math prowess of those people.

Thank you

This looks very good.  I do have one question on value.

For Gulding (15th century-1579):

I believe the Haller should be valued at 1/544 (same as 1622-1642). This makes it equal to the Pfennig.

This is based on SMK7 #22a stating “Funfer (= 5 Haller)…” and #28a stating “Vierer (=4 Haller = ½ Kreuzer)…”.

I would also consider dropping the reference to Pfennig during this period.  The value of Pfennig isn't used in the HMZ during this period and they refer to the one listed in SMK7 (#21) as a Haller (2-819f).

I don't have the other references that you mention and have to google translate so I may be missing something.

Anyway, thanks for the research. 

The haller was equal to half a pfennig, according to SMK7 page 15. The fünfer, vierer, zwölfer, etc. were flexible denominations. They mean fiver, four-piece, twelve-piece, etc. But they weren't necessarily set to the same denomination. E.g. this zwölfer was in reference to 12 kreutzers:

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Sounds good to me. 

The addition of the currencies looks good.  I think it will help keep things in order going forward.