Rudeness and fraud

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Good evening colleagues, advise what to do in this situation? Here is the partner's text -

https://en.numista.com/messages/message.php?id=6180589

F*** the apologetic dude. I don't know your old one. In fact, I have a refund of the coins I sent you, and when I go to my mailbox, the packaging broke and three coins were lost on the way. I saw your URSS banknote and it was a valuable gift. I am waiting for you to send me what you want for bimetallic commercial coins. I'm sending you everything I have. I let you choose three coins and add 2 more coins just for your gift and for the time you are waiting. With best wishes Anentin Billard

I  am 67  years  old.
To compare the value of coins prefer with   ebay  prices .
I always do my shipments through registered mail with tracking number and I hope you will do the same for me.

Hi,

Just so you know, we can't actually see the message in your link. Messages are private so only you & whomever you're communicating with can see them [Except for admins, I believe]. If you want us to advice/give opinions, you'll need to copy/paste the message(s) onto the forum directly.

As I can't see the rest of the messages, I'm not going to make any other judgement. My general advice would be if you're having a “serious disagreement” with another user, you'd be better off reporting them to Numista's admin team. You can do this by clicking on the user in questions specific user profile, and there's an “!” button in the upper right corner. The admin team are probably more clued up anyway, and more likely to offer diplomatic solutions.


And if you do copy/paste the messages here, I would strongly recommend you do NOT post the “offending” user's username and obviously redact any personal details (E.g. addresses). Again, I'd just go through the admin team myself, but ultimately it's your call.

A Collector


Just so you know, we can't actually see the message in your link. Messages are private so only you & whomever you're communicating with can see them [Except for admins, I believe]. If you want us to advice/give opinions, you'll need to copy/paste the message(s) onto the forum directly.

I believe he did exactly that, including the members real name.  

Numista has this disclaimer, “Numista has no control over the execution of the swaps and does not intervene in the relationship between the users.”

400+ swaps - obviously he has been doing it right for many years. I do hope the matter is resolved amicably.

 we are not talking about a deal. I qualify the partner's act as a criminal act, which is qualified by a specific article of the criminal law of any country!

I  am 67  years  old.
To compare the value of coins prefer with   ebay  prices .
I always do my shipments through registered mail with tracking number and I hope you will do the same for me.

aswq

 we are not talking about a deal. I qualify the partner's act as a criminal act, which is qualified by a specific article of the criminal law of any country!

Then talk to the police. Numista will help as needed when a request is made from a police officer.

 

(Policing is hard when the Internet is involved instead of local transactions. That doesn't mean it doesn't happen.)

I had an issue when I sent the coins, the swap “partner” received them and refused to send me the coins agreed saying that he didn't like my coins (despite high quality photos provided)... 

 

I reported to Numista stuff, but nothing happened.

 

I even couldn't make a feedback because he didn't confirm a swap (this was my mistake to send without it).

The only thing I can do is to add his nickname to my personal Numista scammers list…

My personal list of scammers from Numista: erniemix, yvain, CassTaylor

BluHawk

400+ swaps - obviously he has been doing it right for many years. I do hope the matter is resolved amicably.

 

And the rule says that those has the lower rating will have to send first!

https://paperbanknotes.blogspot.com - Any offer for exchange is most welcome.
My spares: https://paperbanknotes.blogspot.com/2006/08/all-notes-listed-below-are-all-offered.html

ahkai

BluHawk

400+ swaps - obviously he has been doing it right for many years. I do hope the matter is resolved amicably.

 

And the rule says that those has the lower rating will have to send first!

Where is that rule?

rsirian1

ahkai

BluHawk

400+ swaps - obviously he has been doing it right for many years. I do hope the matter is resolved amicably.

 

And the rule says that those has the lower rating will have to send first!

Where is that rule?

Common practice..

*inspecting a Roman mintmark*

rsirian1

ahkai

BluHawk

400+ swaps - obviously he has been doing it right for many years. I do hope the matter is resolved amicably.

 

And the rule says that those has the lower rating will have to send first!

Where is that rule?

Well, I was recently told that is how it works here. In other sites, long time ago, whoever requested a swap will have to send first. Some will say both send at the same time.  

https://paperbanknotes.blogspot.com - Any offer for exchange is most welcome.
My spares: https://paperbanknotes.blogspot.com/2006/08/all-notes-listed-below-are-all-offered.html

This is the “rule” (actually just a guideline suggestion):  Who will send first? A person with no swap completed or a low number of swaps usually sends their items first. You may also agree with the other user to send at the same time.

Greetings to colleagues in the world.

   Law enforcement across continents and countries will certainly be a complex area- and problematically solvable.

 

That is why the procedures set by us are designed to prevent these problems - however, it is never possible to avoid them 100%.

Less understandable for us: The rule is to send the first one only in cases where the person has no past - that is, he has not been tested in practice, that he follows the rules and is trustworthy.

In principle, one who has 321 swaps does not send first for a collector who has 411 swaps.

It applies to people who are not yet trustworthy and therefore it is suggested that they send the first - the border is not determined by anything else, it is a mutual agreement and an ideal solution.

Colleagues, we also had a female collector here who was highly valued and yet committed dishonest blackmail and fraudulent behavior.

Personal insults and other actions are absolutely unacceptable and it is good to take a scan of the communication and submit it so that you know what was written. 

This should be solved by the ,,numismatic ombudsman at ,,NUMIST,,-   Team leader

 

However, our colleagues also have to take into account that we come from very different cultures, religions and social institutions-So the level of tolerance must be higher for various written outbursts, but the limit of elementary decency should not be exceeded.

 

So the message of a cannibal collector from a Pacific island can't be "I'd love to eat you, dude."🤐

 

If there is a person here who does not respect elementary decency, the team and the main team representatives should be informed about it, and such a person must receive a clear ban.

,, After consulting with a family member working at Interpol, I inform you that if it is a fraud and we have the address of the fraudster's residence, even if it is a small amount of money, it is possible to write to the headquarters in Holland to notify the Interpol authorities,,

If they have more information from the world, they contact the local police department for verification.

However, they will not kill themselves by claiming that he used an insult or wrote a dirty word or that there is an exchange between two people and the shipment is lost on the way. I think it would rather be about the sale or exchange of fake coins and frauds that were tried here once, but did not pass our watchful eyes.

so just in a nutshell  🙉Ahoj Ivan

Hi, first of all I have never been dishonest with this person, I have just discovered this post which was made about me and which also reveals my first and last name.

At first glance, I find this unacceptable. 

I received a return of these coins because the address was not the correct address. 

When I received the return, the shipment had been damaged.

I asked this person several times to choose parts to compensate for those lost along the way.

He never answered me I have no shame in showing the messages.

However, I really hope that no one can see my address because that would be illegal.

If so, I will report and file a complaint for invasion of privacy. 

If you want to see my other exchanges everything was very well noted and no real problem noted.

So if this person had really been robbed and I had scammed him.

I wouldn't be on numista again and I would have been banned since.

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