Duplicate - Grand Duchy of Lithuania, Ducat - Sigismund II Augustus 1547-1571 [gelöst]

N#63426

N#159316

Other duplicate detected after moving coin from Polish branch to Lithuanian. Second one got better description.

Maybe delete first one, but it got more details about coats of arms used in reverse.

Technically those ducats/florins had so many variations in lettering that it takes five A4 catalogue pages. 1547-1554 used first iteration of ruler's portrait. Later ones got dude with bigger beard. Maybe that would make two coin variants/pages.

Examples in Lithuanian museum online reference

https://www.limis.lt/valuables/e/805209/2871364?searchId=89321872

https://www.limis.lt/valuables/e/805209/1636142?searchId=89321872

I agree that we can differentiate the older bust with the very long beard from earlier portraits.  I think we have done this for the at least one of the silver types.

I will work on it.

I've done this by taking #159316 and making it the Late Portrait, and removing those date lines from #63426.

However, I was not sure if 1561 is the early portrait or the late portrait (it appears 1560 is not the long, forked beard, so I have left it with the early type ) .  Please let me know, so I can remove 1561 from one of the listings and complete it. 

https://postimg.cc/gallery/MwWZHgn

IMHO goatee starts in 1560.

Source for 1560 and 1561 ducats in Sajauskas “Lietuvos didziosios kunigaistystes numizmatika” is “44/713”. That's Gumowski M. - Podrecznik numizmatyki polskiej- Krakov 1914. Probably 713 is page number. 1560 coin is in VNM (Warsaw national museum). 1561 coin is in VE (St.Peterburg, Ermitage). Other author says that 1561 coin is Vienna's historical art museum, but Austrians do not publish those coins in their online collection.

Second source in book is 116. Bialkowski A., Szweycer T. - Monety ostatnych Jagiellonow - Warszawa 1975.

1571 ducat is listed as unique and trial. Should be in Berlin coin museum according to Z.Duksa book.

Thank you.

Yes, there were contiuously changing beard styles for Sigismund II … quite the fashionista I guess 😊.

I will modify to make the early type 1547-1553, and the later type 1560-1571.  There was a Niemczyk sale with an image of a 1548 we can use for the early type.  

Added:  now complete.