Need Your opinion about the coin motif ( Civic copper, Tiflis AH 1081 ) [gelöst]

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Dear   friends,   This civic  copper  is very interesting  among thousands of    civic coppers. Usually,   coin represents one animal, or  two antagonist animals ( Lion vs deer, Falcon vs Stork) , or two same animals ( two fish, two lion,  two monkeys  etc) . This one is unusual with it`s rich  motif: 

Bull , standing over probably whale, or  too big fish,  sun behind the bull,  and oval disc  between bul`s horns. 

THose, who has  connection with islamic culture, coinage, - what do YOu think, guys, -  what  this motif  could mean? are there any symbols,  they may represent? 

Thanks in advance 

David

 

 

 

Whales don't have a forked tail so it's a fish, typically seen on Indian coins it's almost certainly a Catfish as you can see it's barbels 

Vic

Maybe Astronomy? Astology?  Moon in Taurus,  over fish  :)  :)  :)  … 

Vic65

Whales don't have a forked tail so it's a fish, typically seen on Indian coins it's almost certainly a Catfish as you can see it's barbels 

Thanks, dear  Vic65 ! I more interest what all this scene could mean.. If  this motif has any sense.. Thank YOu, dear friend

It's strange because a Bull would never catch a big fish, Tigers and Lions do but removing the horns doesn't make it look much like a Tiger

Vic

Non on zeno like this https://www.zeno.ru/showgallery.php?cat=1975

 

Yes there is https://www.zeno.ru/showphoto.php?photo=145645 

Maybe I should tell them it's not a whale

Vic

The Motif “ Lion VS Bull”  representing Novruz in Iranian  cuture, the begining of a New Year.  Such Motif exists   on plenty of civic coins . 

 Probably, Bull vs  Big fish  is about same?   This  motif  is also  existing in more mints: 

 

Hamadan:  ( ND)

 

Jizan ( AH 1112)

 

But there are no Sun and another planet ( [probably, and more likely, moon) . thats why I think Tiflis  coin  may probbly represents  Spring Equinox ?

well, guess I found something close. 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bahamut 

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