U.S. 1969 S Nickel mintmark placement [gelöst]

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I noticed Numista shows two distinct mintmark placements on the subject coin/ year (as well as 1968). In going through my coins, I seem to have at least one more that is placed distinctly higher than the ones currently imaged (see highlight below). This is most easily noticed for me by comparing the distance between the mintmark and the bottom of the hair.  I always understood mintmark placement to be unique to any particular die (for this timeframe). Could someone please educate me if there are truly recognized variants of this coin, or are the differences  simply imaged for the die collector specialists?

 

Rob

Variation in mint mark placement should not be considered a variant. 

Inclined to agree. Adding the link and capture for easy reference.  N#44 If others agree, Is there some better way of denoting pictures intended to illustrate true varieties from those that simply describe observed differences?

Rob

 I agree with mint mark placement on US coins are not a variation. But those are two different S. It shows two completely different mint marks. Well on the 1969.

It is, what it is, or is it.

I think @Sjoelund has come to understand that mint mark placement on US coins of that time period should not be considered a variant as they are somewhat different on many dies.  This coin page should be cleaned up and those graphics and pictures removed.  Mint mark style differences for a given year may be noted in the Comments.

Yes i agree

It is, what it is, or is it.

I agree, who'll take them out?

Globetrotter
Coin varieties in French:
https://monnaiesetvarietes.numista.com

I can do it.

Here they are:

Globetrotter
Coin varieties in French:
https://monnaiesetvarietes.numista.com

I'm keeping the Bold and Fine S.

thank you rsirian1. Iam think the bold and fine S may be from the s stamp not being hit very hard.

It is, what it is, or is it.

ALLRED1950

thank you rsirian1. Iam think the bold and fine S may be from the s stamp not being hit very hard.

I think you're right but I didn't want to rule out a different punch style without further researching it.  It can always be removed later if someone does that research and concludes not a different style. 

 Well i cannot , i gave those nickels away to Ed a long time ago

It is, what it is, or is it.

rsirian1

I'm keeping the Bold and Fine S.

I would as well…

Globetrotter
Coin varieties in French:
https://monnaiesetvarietes.numista.com

Thank you all! I have around 40 of each year, most well worn. I see the merit of the bold and fine S, at least till someone can definitively say if it is simply a difference in how hard they were hammered.

Rob
Status geändert zu Gelöst (Rkwitmer, 13 Jan. 2025, 03:11)

I have one of these in the blue strippedmint package that may be the bold S and another in the red stripped mint package that’s in a slightly different location and has a fine S. I have searched for years as to why, and for its significance. I see someone has worn examples, mine are mint if would help to see. I just created an account. I’ll respond if needed.

¢@TheObverse

Yes please and thank you. 

I uploaded obverse pictures of each in “My Collection“ being new it was very confusing as  how to share them. And trying to share in this messag.

¢@TheObverse

Numanhere

I have searched for years as to why, and for its significance. 

https://en.numista.com/forum/topic60172.html#p494520 

Token collector [1600-1899] with some coins

 Also: https://coinauctionshelp.com/mintmarkfacts.html 

Token collector [1600-1899] with some coins

I think there may be a difference but would need better focused pictures to tell.

 

    

Can you take pictures of the full coin and maybe zoom in on the mint mark? Also, were these in mint sets (uncirculated, not proof)? Variety Vista shown two similar styles for 1969.

Difficult to get pics through the cellophane packagin. I’ll work on that but this is what’s currently on my phone. As far as mint or proof, I had assumed mint was what I had ordered on eBay 6 years ago. 
 

¢@TheObverse

Images absolutely not convincing, please take the coins out of the plastic….. and redo it all in the same dimensions; please.

Globetrotter
Coin varieties in French:
https://monnaiesetvarietes.numista.com

This is just so you can see the packaging, can you determine mint or proof? The one S mint is in what I thought was the red stripped Denver mint package. The other in it’s blue ( but very green looking) stripe compared to my others, not posted.

¢@TheObverse

That's the Mint (UNC) set. San Francisco made circulation coins of pennies and nickels that year as well as proofs of all the coins. 

 

       

 

       

Looks different.

Ok so it is the Uncirculated one.  Can you show me what the proof package should look like for the 1969 S? I’m confused as to why the one is in red stripped package. I thought that should be a Denver mint, instead of the S? If it’s a mistake I’d prefer to leave it sealed. Otherwise I’d open it for better pictures.  It not that it’s worth anything, it’s just unique 

¢@TheObverse

I’m mean, isn’t this the only 1969 S proof package?  And only the blue or red striped cellophane packaging being the uncirculated mint business strikes?

¢@TheObverse

rsirian1

That's the Mint (UNC) set. San Francisco made circulation coins of pennies and nickels that year as well as proofs of all the coins. 

 

       

 

       

Looks different.

The S is definitely finer and maybe taller on the lowest coin. The slanted look of the lower S,  is just because the two are NOT aligned the same way.

Globetrotter
Coin varieties in French:
https://monnaiesetvarietes.numista.com

I wasn't comparing the location or orientation of the two S's, just the font. Not perfect pictures but they support different styles in 1969.

Numanhere

Ok so it is the Uncirculated one.  Can you show me what the proof package should look like for the 1969 S? I’m confused as to why the one is in red stripped package. I thought that should be a Denver mint, instead of the S? If it’s a mistake I’d prefer to leave it sealed. Otherwise I’d open it for better pictures.  It not that it’s worth anything, it’s just unique 

Both Philadelphia (blue) and Denver (red) contained nickels from San Francisco mint. 

Oh ok, thanks for clearing that up for me!! I bought S&D but  the seller had sent one of each color package and both were S when one was supposed to be D. I’ll cut them open and get better pics!

 

thank you!

¢@TheObverse

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