Andrea Gritti marcello

What if there are no initials for the assayer on the coin? I have seen a couple without them,  and I just purchased one in NGC AU58  that has none.

Always include pictures and specifications.

Thank you. 

Yes, there are examples of this coin with no initials of a mint official.

A new date line has been added for this.

Yes, mine is dated 1523-1538. I noticed most engravers have certain years, but grading companies don't note this. You have to learn these things on your own. I also have Leonardo Loredano 16 soldi w the full date, but with the initials of the first engraver from the first year.

So I guess my question has now morphed into the reason for not having  engraver initials? Is there, and what is the reason for this? You know more than I currently do, having heard of this new date line.

Thanks to all who are responding. This is my first time on here. Dresden

I will also try to include pictures from no on.

I should have said “Welcome to Numista!” earlier.  Glad you've found the site.  

For some of the Italian city-states, there is at least a partial record of the mint officials with the initials we see on the coins.  For Florence that record  goes back to the 1300s.  For Venice it doesn't go back quite that far, but in both places there are two kinds of gaps in the record:  coins with no iniitials (the initials are also called sigille), and coins with initials  where the record has been lost of whose initials they are.

Nobody can say why your coin has no initials.  Maybe there were rumors in the break room that the current mintmaster was a short-timer and getting ready to move on to a new position, so the engraver figured “why bother engraving the wrong initials?” 😉

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Lol, you are probably right. It doesn't bother me in the least, in fact I find it rather interesting, but in all my years collecting Italian state coins I'd never seen this before. Thanks for everyone who responded. I learned something new….

Collecting Italian States coins provides all kinds of educational experiences in European political and economic history, monetary innovation and many other themes. 

One of my favorite areas (not that other places don't afford similar opportunities).  

Yes, they are pretty amazing all things considered with the coins that populated the world in those times. I buy, sell, and trade all world coins, but I personally collect Italian state coins. Mostly the late 14th century up until the early 17th.