Euro coinage: new reverse (common side) of Euro Cents [gelöst]

In several Eurozone countries, the reverse (common sides) of Eurocent coins has been modified over the past few years. I think it would be good to be able to compile information from all the countries where this change has occurred, along with the exact dates, so that each page could be included. It would be nice to have uniform and standardized information available for inclusion on each page.

Below are some photos of the changes in each of the currencies, with the permission of @Sjoelund , many thanks for your work!!!:

1 EURO CENT:

2 EURO CENT:

5 EURO CENT:

Old reverse (left) New reverse (right)

10 EURO CENT:

Old reverse (left) New reverse (right)

20 EURO CENT:

New reverse (left) Old reverse (right)

50 EURO CENT:

Old reverse (left) New reverse (right)

To continue with the topic, the information on the design changes of the reverse of coins from SPAIN was collected in the following years:

SPAIN EURO CENTS REVERSE TYPES:

I think it would be very interesting for Numista to have this same information for each Eurozone country. 

I'm going to look for Andorra coins, which are issued by the Madrid Mint in even-numbered years and by the Monnaie de Paris in odd-numbered years. It's likely that, starting in a certain year, the reverses of their coins are different in even-numbered and odd-numbered years, since I believe France changed the reverses years later than Spain.

CROATIA EURO CENTS REVERSE TYPES:

ANDORRA EURO CENTS REVERSE TYPES:

World of Coins has a discussion following the 1,2,5 changes, and is also starting to watch the 10,20,50 changes.

 http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php/topic,43473.75.html

Anything to do here?

Hi Jarcek, there's nothing we can do about it. The topic can be closed. I thought “variant hunters” would be interested in this topic, which affects all Eurozone countries, but I see it wasn't successful, hehehe. 

Thanks, Oscar

I mean, it can be added into comments or even as new yearlines, but that is a question for a referee.

Jarcek

I mean, it can be added into comments or even as new yearlines, but that is a question for a referee.

Yes, of course, this was the purpose of this topic: to clarify the new reverses of all these coins and, among all the referees from the affected countries, agree on a course of action (Comments or New Year's Line) so that it would be carried out in a coordinated manner in all countries.

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I've started on the 10, 20 & 50 cent documentation.

Here is the Spanish 20 cent from 2023 for verification.

Comments?

Do we have any good hi-res images of the 10 and 50 cent coins?

Here is the Spanish 20 cent from 2023 for verification.

Comments?

Do we have any good hi-res images of the 10 and 50 cent coins?

Hi Ole, is ok for me, I will try to find some good hi-res images of the 10 and 50 cent coins. Many thanks!!!!

Ole, in the graphic of 1 Euro Cent Spain, in the title we must say only 2018 and not 2017-2018 and in the 5 Euro Cents Spain we must say only 2018 and not 2018-2019. The 2 Euro Cents Spain title is correct.

Ole, is it possible to make some of this graphics for Andorra? The images and all the graphic will be exactly the same, but with title:

Andorra: 1 Cent KM#520; Differences between old reverse and new reverse

And the final yellow line could be two lines with “Old reverse” in the left line and “New reverse” in the right line.

The same for 2 Cents (KM#521) and 5 Cents (KM#522)

For Andorra is better without dates, because is complex as you can see in table above. I prefer to use year lines comments and say Old reverse and New reverse on each year line.

Many thanks!!!!

oynbcn

Hi Ole, is ok for me, I will try to find some good hi-res images of the 10 and 50 cent coins. Many thanks!!!!

 

Ole, in the graphic of 1 Euro Cent Spain, in the title we must say only 2018 and not 2017-2018 and in the 5 Euro Cents Spain we must say only 2018 and not 2018-2019. The 2 Euro Cents Spain title is correct.

If you're OK with these, feel free to make the CR.

Here is the 50 cents 2023 coin, which is missing the image of the obverse (Cervantes)

Comments, please?

oynbcn

Ole, is it possible to make some of this graphics for Andorra? The images and all the graphic will be exactly the same, but with title:

 

Andorra: 1 Cent KM#520; Differences between old reverse and new reverse

 

And the final yellow line could be two lines with “Old reverse” in the left line and “New reverse” in the right line.

 

The same for 2 Cents (KM#521) and 5 Cents (KM#522)

 

For Andorra is better without dates, because is complex as you can see in table above. I prefer to use year lines comments and say Old reverse and New reverse on each year line.

 

Many thanks!!!!

Of course, it's possible, but you must supply the hi-res images of both sides of the coins? I don't have them.

oynbcn

Ole, is it possible to make some of this graphics for Andorra? The images and all the graphic will be exactly the same, but with title:

 

Andorra: 1 Cent KM#520; Differences between old reverse and new reverse

 

And the final yellow line could be two lines with “Old reverse” in the left line and “New reverse” in the right line.

 

The same for 2 Cents (KM#521) and 5 Cents (KM#522)

 

For Andorra is better without dates, because is complex as you can see in table above. I prefer to use year lines comments and say Old reverse and New reverse on each year line.

 

Many thanks!!!!

Of course, it's possible, but you must supply the hi-res images of both sides of the coins? I don't have them.

How do we know, that those designs will also be used in 2024 etc?

Sjoelund

oynbcn

Hi Ole, is ok for me, I will try to find some good hi-res images of the 10 and 50 cent coins. Many thanks!!!!

 

Ole, in the graphic of 1 Euro Cent Spain, in the title we must say only 2018 and not 2017-2018 and in the 5 Euro Cents Spain we must say only 2018 and not 2018-2019. The 2 Euro Cents Spain title is correct.

If you're OK with these, feel free to make the CR.

Hi Ole, the 5 Cents graphic still have 2018-2019 instead of only 2018 :)

Sjoelund

Here is the Spanish 20 cent from 2023 for verification.

 

 

Comments?

 

Do we have any good hi-res images of the 10 and 50 cent coins?

Perfect, is in the coin page right now!!! Many thanks, Ole!!

N#10859

Sjoelund

Here is the 50 cents 2023 coin, which is missing the image of the obverse (Cervantes)

 

Comments, please?

In the title, instead 2023 might be 2025 (is the year when the reverse change in Spain for the 50 Cents coin) and instead of “two variants”, maybe is better "new reverse" (I think in 2025 there is only new reverse coins)

You can use this obverse ;)

Better?

The problem is that we know that for the 1, 2, and 5 cent coins, we know that both reverses exist in 2018; for the 20 cent coin, we know that both reverses will exist in 2023. But for the 10 and 50 cent coins, I've only been able to verify the existence of coins with the new reverse for the year 2025. 

I think that, until the existence of the old reverse can be proven, in this 50 cent coin chart (as in the future for the 10 cent coin), the best thing to do would be: 

In the title, instead of "two types," I would write "new reverse," perhaps remove the photo of the "common obverse," and in the yellow signs, I would write "Old type 2010-2024" and "New type 2025-date." 

What do you think?

For Andorra we can use exactly the same graphic for Spain (in fact, these coins are issued by the FNMT of Madrid), in all of denominations, with these lettering differences:

1. Title: “Andorra: 1 Cent, KM#520, differences between Old and New reverse”

2. Erase the obverse images.

3. In the titles on bottom: “KM#520: OLD REVERSE” and “KM#520: NEW REVERSE”

And the same for all denominations in Cents. We can start with this 1 Cent coin graphic and see how it works ;)

oynbcn

The problem is that we know that for the 1, 2, and 5 cent coins, we know that both reverses exist in 2018; for the 20 cent coin, we know that both reverses will exist in 2023. But for the 10 and 50 cent coins, I've only been able to verify the existence of coins with the new reverse for the year 2025. 

I think that, until the existence of the old reverse can be proven, in this 50 cent coin chart (as in the future for the 10 cent coin), the best thing to do would be: 

In the title, instead of "two types," I would write "new reverse," perhaps remove the photo of the "common obverse," and in the yellow signs, I would write "Old type 2010-2024" and "New type 2025-date." 

What do you think?

We don't know for sure if the 2026 coin will be like the 2025! So here it is:

Sjoelund

oynbcn

The problem is that we know that for the 1, 2, and 5 cent coins, we know that both reverses exist in 2018; for the 20 cent coin, we know that both reverses will exist in 2023. But for the 10 and 50 cent coins, I've only been able to verify the existence of coins with the new reverse for the year 2025. 

I think that, until the existence of the old reverse can be proven, in this 50 cent coin chart (as in the future for the 10 cent coin), the best thing to do would be: 

In the title, instead of "two types," I would write "new reverse," perhaps remove the photo of the "common obverse," and in the yellow signs, I would write "Old type 2010-2024" and "New type 2025-date." 

What do you think?

We don't know for sure if the 2026 coin will be like the 2025! So here it is:

Perfect, I insert the graphic in the page:

N#10860

I have in change today one 10 Cents 2025, maybe tomorrow I can send pictures of this coin.

Many thanks!!!