25 Öre - Oscar I 1859 has a four leaves laurel wreath the same as 25 Öre - Carl XV 1862-1871, Image below is from Katz auction example on the same page, i have the same coin.
below is 25 Öre - Oscar I 1856 that illustrate this coin with different - three leaves laurel wreath
Does it qualify this coin for a different type? or separate listing? is it a mule?
So when i asked about it to some of the authorities on swedish coins they refered to it as likely planch variations more so then any new types or similair these where not minted in huge numbers but the planches were reused alot even when damaged (the only change being the dates)
I will also see if my Hamrin mentions any variants of this type or not the only catalouge id expect to find this stuff in
In a way, they denied our findings and the “break” year? Strange behavior, I find?
More acknowledge that its not a variant but rather an error more its abit complicated to put it bluntly but “minor” variantions are often not taken seeiously on swedish coinage its just seen as variations thats to be expected abit of differing views on the matter especially held by the older collectors and so here in sweden
"To be clear i think its a case of an worn planchet personally aswell an opion others shared when i showed above some did however agree that i could be an variant due to wear"
Then crowns are NOT the same size, which has nothing to do with wear.
The crown size diffrences i asked about was also told to be diffrent planches (they went through a couple in the production and there where diffrences between some (also some diffrences between mint to mint these were made in 2 or 3 of our mints at the time with no way of dicerning the diffrence between mints)
Then crowns are NOT the same size, which has nothing to do with wear.
The crown size diffrences i asked about was also told to be diffrent planches (they went through a couple in the production and there where diffrences between some (also some diffrences between mint to mint these were made in 2 or 3 of our mints at the time with no way of dicerning the diffrence between mints)
A different planchet with a new design is by definition producing a new type.
Then crowns are NOT the same size, which has nothing to do with wear.
The crown size diffrences i asked about was also told to be diffrent planches (they went through a couple in the production and there where diffrences between some (also some diffrences between mint to mint these were made in 2 or 3 of our mints at the time with no way of dicerning the diffrence between mints)
A different planchet with a new design is by definition producing a new type.
Not according to those i talked to they attribute it to other things
They attribute it to overusing and slacking quality of the swedish mints during the time (when rich people with contacts could get practically any coin outside of gold mintage made for them aa specimens ((which is how Bruun got his extravagant 2kr amongst others at the time))
Another reason mentioned is that alot of coins dated 1860 where repunched as the king died in 1859 they are nominally indiffrent design wise but can show some extra weak strike designs (this was an theory given by one of those who agree with you on the crown diffrences)
(I need to clear out that im essentially being an message football i do not personally have a foot in this race)
Then crowns are NOT the same size, which has nothing to do with wear.
The crown size diffrences i asked about was also told to be diffrent planches (they went through a couple in the production and there where diffrences between some (also some diffrences between mint to mint these were made in 2 or 3 of our mints at the time with no way of dicerning the diffrence between mints)
A different planchet with a new design is by definition producing a new type.
Not according to those i talked to they attribute it to other things
(I need to clear out that im essentially being an message football i do not personally have a foot in this race)
Then crowns are NOT the same size, which has nothing to do with wear.
The crown size diffrences i asked about was also told to be diffrent planches (they went through a couple in the production and there where diffrences between some (also some diffrences between mint to mint these were made in 2 or 3 of our mints at the time with no way of dicerning the diffrence between mints)
A different planchet with a new design is by definition producing a new type.
Not according to those i talked to they attribute it to other things
(I need to clear out that im essentially being an message football i do not personally have a foot in this race)