Sweden: 5 öre 1883, km#736, overdate 3/8

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Numista says that the overdate exists. Felix Ekberg from www.myntinfo.se has documented it and I have taken his findings and I have my doubts about 3 over 8. Don't forget that the 1888 is five years LATER than 1883. SCWC doesn't mention this overdate, but be that as it might be. For sure, there's something UNDER the 3, but what?

 

What's your opinion?

Globetrotter
Coin varieties in French:
https://monnaiesetvarietes.numista.com

I see this one fairly well.

Jamais l'or n'a perdu la plus petite occasion de se montrer stupide. -Balzac

Mr. Midnight

I see this one fairly well.

Yes, you can see some part of an 8 (the yellow lines), but how does that part within the green oval fits in an 8 together with the yellow lines? There's obviously something there but I have no idea what. Like Ole said: 3/something.

 

I think that is a random die cud. I think there was a lot of repairs to these dies.

Jamais l'or n'a perdu la plus petite occasion de se montrer stupide. -Balzac

That's also my opinion, but somebody somewhere and somewhen decided it was a very improbable overdate.

Globetrotter
Coin varieties in French:
https://monnaiesetvarietes.numista.com

If it was an overdate it should be 83 over 78 but I don't see anything under the 8. On overdate 83 over 88 would be absurd, an overdate is always over a previous date.

Hi all!

 

I've tried to re-photograph both versions of this coin, the regular 1883 and the one I believe shows a 3 over 8. I made a GIF where the two coins alternate quickly. In my opinion, you can clearly see traces of what looks like an 8 underneath the 3.
Here it is:
 

 

I also made another GIF where I placed a transparent 8 over the 3 to show how the remaining elements line up. Most of the underdigit seems to match pretty well.
Here’s that one:

 

 

Hope this helps the discussion a bit :)
By the way, I noticed that the GIFs appear quite small when I upload them here. If anyone knows how to make them show larger in a forum post, I’d be happy to try that.

Myntinfo


By the way, I noticed that the GIFs appear quite small when I upload them here. If anyone knows how to make them show larger in a forum post, I’d be happy to try that.

Hi, images appear as a thumbnail in the post. 

If you click on it, the full size image will appear in an overlay.

Jamais l'or n'a perdu la plus petite occasion de se montrer stupide. -Balzac

Mr. Midnight

Myntinfo


By the way, I noticed that the GIFs appear quite small when I upload them here. If anyone knows how to make them show larger in a forum post, I’d be happy to try that.

Hi, images appear as a thumbnail in the post. 

If you click on it, the full size image will appear in an overlay.

 

I see now, thank you so much for the info!

I still think the lump in the green circle is unrelated to the 8.

Jamais l'or n'a perdu la plus petite occasion de se montrer stupide. -Balzac

I've never seen an overdate that wasn't over a previous year. An overdate 1883 over 1888 makes no sense at all. An overdate 1883 over 1878 would make sense but there's absolutely no trace of a 7 under the first 8.

The overdate from the “future” doesn't make sense!

Globetrotter
Coin varieties in French:
https://monnaiesetvarietes.numista.com

what if the engraver kept making 8s, three instead of two, and then had to fix the error…?

Jamais l'or n'a perdu la plus petite occasion de se montrer stupide. -Balzac

Never say never, but then he must have been very absent-minded.

Do we discard this variant or not?

 

Globetrotter
Coin varieties in French:
https://monnaiesetvarietes.numista.com

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