Sweden: 10 öre 1867, km#710, U/O over G, V bottom up

N#37757

This documentation is based on the findings on Felix Ekberg's website, www.myntinfo.se,

Comments, please?

Interesting comment in the yellow box.  Why create a variant with no evidence it exists? I tried to find it on the site but the link went nowhere.

I know, the link isn't there, but I have noticed Felix does NOT have all the coins he describes, thus he can't make his documentation, but I suppose, the coin exists and he hasn't got it! Unfortunately, I don't have the Swedish Myntboken katalog.

rsirian1

 

Why create a variant with no evidence it exists? I tried to find it on the site but the link went nowhere.

Well, at least there's something since it's also in the Swedish catalog. World catalogs often have mistakes (certainly Krause) but national catalogs not so much.

Unfortunately there's no picture on it for the variant. And I don't know exactly what they mean with the letter after G.O. Is that an inverted V or is that an inverted A? If it's an inverted A it will be very difficult to see that horizontal line on such a small coin. But normal V or inverted V/inverted A should be easy to see. The problem is to find a picture, there are not so many pictures on the internet of a 10 ore 1867.

Catalogs have been known to be wrong.  Without evidence Numista should not confirm its existence even with the disclaimer in the yellow box.  Maybe something like this? Can be modified later if a picture of a real coin is found.

Essor Prof

 

Well, at least there's something since it's also in the Swedish catalog. World catalogs often have mistakes (certainly Krause) but national catalogs not so much.

 

 

Thanks. I was composing my reply and didn't see yours. So maybe not inverted V at all?  Probably should not show “an example” that it's an inverted V.

I have asked Felix, and I'm waiting for his answer.

Otherwise, your idea can easily be implemented…..

Hi everyone!

Felix here from Myntinfo.se 🇸🇪

As Sjoelund mentioned, I sometimes add placeholders for coin variants on my site that I haven’t yet found or photographed myself, mainly to remind myself to return to them later. However, you're absolutely right that having clickable links that lead to the front page instead of an actual coin page can be confusing. That’s completely my mistake, and I’ll work on fixing those links so they are clearer in the future.

Now for the good news: the variant you’re discussing  the 1867 10-öre with "G.O.∀." (an inverted A instead of a V)  does exist, and I have it in my collection. I just hadn’t taken the time to upload images until now. You can now see it here:

🔗 https://www.myntinfo.se/10-ore-1867-g-o-%e2%88%80/

The inverted A is clearly visible.

While I was updating all 1867 10-öringar, I also added several other 1867 10-öre variants that might interest you:

• Standard type: https://www.myntinfo.se/10-ore-1867/
• "L in L.A. on I" (you can see an I behind the letters L.A.): https://www.myntinfo.se/10-ore-1867-l-i-l-a-pa-i/
• "Punctured O" (a dot that appears to be on or inside the O in G.O.V.): https://www.myntinfo.se/10-ore-1867-punktert-o/
• "U on G" / "SVERIUES" (a U behind the G, making it look like it says SVERIUES instead of SVERIGES): https://www.myntinfo.se/10-ore-1867-u-pa-g-sveriues/

There is still one more variant from 1867 I haven’t found yet. It’s known as "I on E", where an I appears behind the E in the word SVERIGES. I’ll update you as soon as I manage to get hold of it.

If you have any more questions about Swedish coins, feel free to reach out. I’m always happy to help collectors with identifying variants, verifying catalog entries, or just talking numismatics.

Best regards,
Felix

Thank you very much Felix and welcome to Numista. And congratulations with your hard work, especially since your work is only for a small audience. Most people don't care much about variants.

Happy I took the right conclusion and it is an inverted A in stead of an inverted V. And no discussion about the inverted A after seeing your picture.

Very nice pictures. Thanks and welcome to Numista!  Perhaps you'll stick around and help us evaluate Ole's great work from your site?

Thanks Felix,

here's the modified 1867

I'll attack the new ones tomorrow.

Essor Prof

Thank you very much Felix and welcome to Numista. And congratulations with your hard work, especially since your work is only for a small audience. Most people don't care much about variants.

 

Happy I took the right conclusion and it is an inverted A in stead of an inverted V. And no discussion about the inverted A after seeing your picture.

Thank you so much for the warm welcome and your kind words. It really means a lot, especially since you, like me, know how much time and effort goes into this.

And yes, you’re absolutely right, variants often fly under the radar for most collectors, but for some of us, they’re half the fun! I'm glad the image helped confirm that it's an inverted A and not a V. It's those little details that make this hobby so rewarding and fun :)

Looking forward to contributing more and learning from the Numista community as well.

Best regards,
Felix

rsirian1

Very nice pictures. Thanks and welcome to Numista!  Perhaps you'll stick around and help us evaluate Ole's great work from your site?

Thanks a lot for the welcome and the kind words about the photos, really appreciated.

I'd be happy to stick around and help out where I can. Ole has done some great work, and if any of my findings can support or complement his, I’m more than glad to contribute!

Best regards,
Felix

Sjoelund

I'll attack the new ones tomorrow.

Looks good!

Feel free to reach out if you have any further questions. Otherwise, I’ll try to pop into the Numista forum here and there to help out where I can too :)

Best regards,
Felix

Thanks Felix,

I'll certainly hold you to that….

Myntinfo

Sjoelund

I'll attack the new ones tomorrow.

Looks good!

 

Feel free to reach out if you have any further questions. Otherwise, I’ll try to pop into the Numista forum here and there to help out where I can too :)

 

Best regards,
Felix

Välkommen till numista förövrigt

Terrazone

Myntinfo

Sjoelund

I'll attack the new ones tomorrow.

Looks good!

 

Feel free to reach out if you have any further questions. Otherwise, I’ll try to pop into the Numista forum here and there to help out where I can too :)

 

Best regards,
Felix

Välkommen till numista förövrigt

Tusen tack :)

As promised

Looks great!

I’ll update you here in the thread as soon as I manage to find the last missing variant with an I on top of the E in "SVERIGES".

Thanks a lot.