How do I ship coins internationly without spending much)

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I have 2 shipping options

1. America, but last time I tried to ship some forgein coins worth around 10$, I got charged $64.25 So absolutely not. (BTW this is usps)

2. Jordan, Better location but their problems. Jordan post is sh*t and their rating per location according to my estimate is 2.9 Stars. Their DHL but they dont allow coins. IDK about aramex but I imagine they dont allow it and their expensive I think.

So yeah, please help.

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The quick answer … you don't. International shipping from developed countries got so expensive that many if not most transcontinental swaps and even purchases dried up years ago.

Also no shipping company that I know of allows money to be shipped in regular mail (but that's usually money that is in current use). 

 

The only relatively cheap way I know is a small amount through letter mail (but in many countries anything non paper is prohibited from that and you have to be lucky to get it shipped).

So a small amount is good? Do you have any tips for me beside this good advice?

I feel like a good way to cover the coins is to put it in a box and make some art or something like it and put the coins in it and I call it a day

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Sorry haven't send outside of Europe for a long time just imported a few times from Japan (and it got only more expensive over time).
There are quite a few threads with tips on the forum (just use the forum search) or wait for some members with recent experience.
The art stuff is useless, when the parcel gets opened it will get opened completely the only general advice is to package coins in such a way that they are not easily detectable through touch and do not hit each other and jingle (but this makes things also more bulky and heavier).

In civilized world letter might go though x-ray instead of being opened.

 

Local post office (Lithuania) got page that tells that coins and notes are forbidden. They tend to be shipped via courier services.

I buy from the royal Australian mint and more often than not the postage and packing is more than the price of the coin, I tend to wait now and order in bulk that makes it cheaper 

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In civilized world letter might go though x-ray instead of being opened.

This has zero to do with anything. If a parcel gets flagged for inspection which can be through an x-ray indication, country of origin or simple RNG it gets opened in any kind of country. Letters being the least likely but enough drugs like LSD sheets etc get shipped through them that it is not that uncommon.

Coins as collectibles can only be sent with parcel / package post - i.e. the more expensive way, they are classed as goods, and are insured at a higher value and tracked more by the postal network if sent via a postal service other than a parcel company (obviously the parcel company also takes greater care with tracking and pays out more when lost or stolen).

 

Money in this sense is not illegal to send, only money laundering regulations make large cash amount illegal (and lets face it if you are sending large amounts of cash in the post you are doing something illegal), don’t forget large amounts of some de-monetised notes can still be exchanged in national banks, etc.

 

So, the reason Post services will not allow coins to be sent via normal post, same rules applies to small DIY items, etc - for example screws, is because 1; they are worth a value and will often get stolen (so they want you to send via their packet post service) and 2; letters are sorted by machines which cost millions and sort millions of letters per day at very fast speeds, these letters whizz through slots to have the postcodes read and are redirected at various points, with the machines constantly moving etc. Idiots who think someone is going to sort their mail by hand all the way to its destination are living in the past, these machines are very delicate and are designed to process paper, the coins, screws etc are ripped out by the machines and cause stoppages, damage and delays. 
 

The price of post is regulated by certain treaties, and is designed to help developing countries have cheaper prices than that of post being sent from developed countries. If you are in a developed country post to other countries can be expensive and visa versa, these treaties are updated slowly so some countries that have been considered developed for many years might still have post prices from 30-40 years ago when they were considered developing. When this changes the international postage can go up 4 fold overnight and can come as quite a shock to people from that country, but that is just the way it is. 
 

So your cheapest way to send anything is via your national postal services, because as said their prices are regulated by international treaty, parcel services have more scope to add costs to these services - mostly on the promise of better service and faster delivery. Local postal services will also offer package services which cost more because of the extra insurance (to mitigate theft) and because of size (so they are tracked more and not sorted through the big machines for post). Local postal services will also offer tracked mail which will be placed in the machines if the size is excepted, this will be cheaper than their package service, but will have caveats such as no goods, coins, screws etc! Because it is tracked it will have a small amount of insurance on it (you can pay for more) check with your post office how much they will pay if it is lost or stolen. If you place small amounts of coins, packaged so they do not move around and the envelope is regular in size like documentation and not totally rigid they will not break the sorting machine and you will have no problems. When declaring the contents you have to lie (because if the postal services rules so no coins or goods you will invalidate your chance to recover costs if it is lost or stolen) so declare „collectible items“ to the correct value or the maximum value of refund from the postal service. 

 

Now for customs, if you declare „collectible items“ and customs spot it be prepared to pay some fees (usually the recipient pays these) here you need to know if the country charges Value Added Tax on coins or not (well the recipient does as they will be paying and or disputing), customs or the local authorities will not bring criminal case against you or the recipient unless you don’t pay the tax, and then only for not paying and not the importation of the goods.

 

Hope this helps.

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