Hey all, this is my first forum post here so I'm not exactly sure how these work, but anyway, looking to identify these two coins: The first I believe to be a Crusader Imitation of a Byzantin Tetarteron, or perhaps an Italian States Civic Issue. The obverse doesn't feature Christ or an Emperor, but rather a Saint, and I believe Greek legends, and the reverse depicts the Virgin Mary Orans. The second one I think is Arab-Byzantine, or maybe a contemporary forgery. I'm more knowledgeable on this one but still would like some certainty with it. Any help with either of these would be greatly appreciated, thanks!
