Thanks both of you - so first coin (Numista Rarity 97) is 1810-1820 (with only me owning one it seems) and second coin (Numista Rarity 82) is 1736-1769 (with 20 members owning one). I remember reading on here recently that other systems apart from KM are preferred for China coins, so DH or FD must be some of them. I added my pictures as requested, which may help future searches for people like me who don't have a clue.
I am learning a little, and SmartOne told me that on the reverse the symbol like a spiral (as I call it) on the left means "mint" and the symbol (Manchu) on the right is where it was made. And that the first coin was made in Xinjiang which makes it especially rare.
I always hoped to find a site that showed all the mints on one page so people would have a start to identify their coins by firstly finding the mint, then going from there. Maybe there is a Numisdoc, or one can be made.
The first one wasn't made in Xinjiang. It should say so in the description field (my work during the summer).
The coin was issued in Dongchuan, Yunnan. It's not an extremely rare find, but it's definitely an uncommon coin. If I had a batch of cash coins, I'd have to be lucky to find one of these.
The reason why I am completely ignoring KM# and C# is because they are wrong, first of all, and they are completely inconsistent. What I mean by wrong is that they use Wade-Giles (yuck, who says T'ung-chih anymore?), the varieties are too few and sometimes erroneous (rim size??), and there are some coins listed that aren't even coins, possibly amulets. There are also S#, but they list varieties separately, while FD# lists them by type; I find that very consistent with the rest of Numista.
We use DH# to describe varieties. One of my goals this summer is to make sure that all varieties are listed in every coin sheet existing on China - Empire.
Zac, we actually do have a Numisdoc! Go under Countries, then check out China - Empire; it'll have all the mint names for you.
Kenny
- Verifying your Asian and British-territorial coins everyday with the best quality photos and the best information.
You have? Do you mean some swap?
I don't have much for swap at the moment, I removed my swap list.
I will be doing some new but only Japan, China, Taiwan...Korea, Vietnam.
I actually didn't mean swap. I have some very common cash just sitting here collecting dust. I guess we can do a swap, that's the right thing to do. Send me a PM and I'll select the coins I like. To be fair I don't really like swapping, but for Asian coins it's a must. And I promise to be fair too.
Kenny
- Verifying your Asian and British-territorial coins everyday with the best quality photos and the best information.
Verweis : ZacUKI always hoped to find a site that showed all the mints on one page so people would have a start to identify their coins by firstly finding the mint, then going from there. Maybe there is a Numisdoc, or one can be made.
It would be nice to have actual photos of the mints. Sometimes it's pretty difficult to match up typing to writing, if that makes any sense.
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Wow, being a n00b collector that just happens to have about 20 of these Chinese coins at home that I know nothing about, the information here really leaves me hoping that I can get them identified. Thanks for the tips and the Numisdoc!