20 kreuzer 1778 Transylvania. Is it the same coin ?

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Hello,
 I have the coin shown below. When checking it into Numista I saw some different from km 656
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces48237.html
HUN.BOH in the lettering instead of HU.BO
and some differences in details.
Is it the same coin ? Is it the HS variant (the sheet has the HG type) ? Or another coin ?

Silver, 29mm, 6.5gr

Thanks,
André
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Little up.
Any idea ?
Thanks,
André
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Hi!
I think that your coin has another KM number and it is not a variant of mentioned coin. Unfortunately, I don't know which KM number it is.
Regards
Kuna
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Hi Kuna,

Thanks for looking.

I found this link http://www.eremtar.hupont.hu/50/az-erdelyi-fejedelemseg-penzei-iii which gives a wonderful list of coins. Mine is the # 230 bottom of the list. It gives a number: Huszár E. 997

It is also # 214 in this list
http://mek.oszk.hu/09700/09705/pdf/munzen2.pdf,
that mentions the H S marks (for Hermannstadt-Schickmayer), and a Hess number 1383 for the previous 1777 coin. And you can go up the serie but I get lost ! It does not seem to stop at 1773 is in Krause.

Krause obviously simplified the types of those Austro-Hungarian coins, so i don't know.

Regards

André
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Hi!
I've been looking for your coin and on NGC is picture just like yours, so probably KM#656
http://www.ngccoin.com/price-guide/world/transylvania-20-kreuzer-km-656-1773-1780-cuid-91612-duid-245512

I have also the same problem. My coin is from German States and I have found it in Numista accept one little difference. The only difference is in one letter, like C instead of K or something like that.

BTW pretty nice coin!  ;)

Regards
Kuna
Check my doubles ;)
Hello,
Some more on that coin:
I found this on www
and that

So there are
1777 HG with HUN BOH in legend
1779 HS with HUN BOH in legend (same as the NGC picture)
1778 HS with HUN BOH in legend (mine)

Those 3 look the same, so it is not that HS differ from HG, but they differ from the coin on our sheet (HU BO in legend, base of bust somewhat narrower, and wreath different - see particularly laurel branch shoerter with less leaves).

Maybe a difference due to date ? Earlier coins versus older coins ?
If no more info comes, I'll stick to the "varieties exist" of our usual catalogue  :~

Cheers
André
Quand l'Histoire et la Géographie se croisent sur nos pièces de monnaie ...
Perhaps the referee for Hungarian states may help you.
Referee for Spain, Iberia (ancient), Suebi Kingdom and Visigothic Kingdom
Little up to try to solve this.
Thanks,
André
Quand l'Histoire et la Géographie se croisent sur nos pièces de monnaie ...
Hi André,

http://katalogus.numismatics.hu/product_info.php/cPath/31_44/products_id/6478 This coin is the same type, isn't ?

Regards,
Adrien
Spécialiste de la Hongrie médiévale.

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