Half Crown Hunt 1911-1970 - Help if you can please

I need the following dates in gvf+ or better to complete the series. If you see any either for auction on ebay or have one available to swap or sell, please let me know.

1911, 1912, 1913
1919, 1924, 1925
1926, 1927, 1929
1932, 1933, 1934

Please note I'm pretty anal about grading for these, for example this coin is probably no more than an F, certainly not the kind of thing I'm looking for.

Thanks for your help in advance!

Verweis : "oggy"​
​Please note I'm pretty anal about grading for these, for example this coin is probably no more than an F, certainly not the kind of thing I'm looking for.
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Oh Oggy, how much do I feel your pain brother.

It's KGV, the guy with the curly hair and full manly beard not Kojak!!!!!

Whenever I find a swap partner who can grade KGV and Edward VII with reasonable accuracy I stick with them like a leech. (Imagine one of those little dogs humping your leg, that's me)

Good luck my dear fellow. Do you have the 1970 proof yet?

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA....EF!

In this business we call it a sham of a mockery and a mockery of a sham. EF MY ARSE!

Verweis : "pnightingale"​

Verweis : "oggy"​
​​Please note I'm pretty anal about grading for these, for example this coin is probably no more than an F, certainly not the kind of thing I'm looking for.
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​Oh Oggy, how much do I feel your pain brother.
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​It's KGV, the guy with the curly hair and full manly beard not Kojak!!!!!
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​Whenever I find a swap partner who can grade KGV and Edward VII with reasonable accuracy I stick with them like a leech. (Imagine one of those little dogs humping your leg, that's me)
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​Good luck my dear fellow. Do you have the 1970 proof yet?
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It's absolutely crazy how many people overgrade them isn't it. Added to that, his hair doesn't photograph too well except under perfect lighting, it makes them a bit of a challenge!! Here's 5 of my KGV ones, can you spot all his hair?!



I have a 1970, but unfortunately it has a fingerprint on it! It's one of those that I'll upgrade when I can, but am not too bothered about for now. At least I have it!

Verweis : "oggy"​It's absolutely crazy how many people overgrade them isn't it. Added to that, his hair doesn't photograph too well except under perfect lighting, it makes them a bit of a challenge!! Here's 5 of my KGV ones, can you spot all his hair?!
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​I have a 1970, but unfortunately it has a fingerprint on it! It's one of those that I'll upgrade when I can, but am not too bothered about for now. At least I have it!

​Now those are some nice KGV's!

His and Edward VII's coins are definitely the most difficult to grade accurately. I've purchased an Edward VII half crown once for BV because it looked God awful in the photos (which were God awful themselves actually), but it looked fantastic in hand.

I even messaged the seller to make sure it was the right coin and he assured me it was.

Good point Rob, I find coin photography very difficult especially trying to capture the finer details which are so crucial in these series. I have a few very high grade UNC florins which are 100% flawless and would be a sure candidate for slabbing if I was so inclined but if I take a picture they would assuredly be looking like some bog standard EF coins.

Verweis : "oggy"​​It's absolutely crazy how many people overgrade them isn't it. Added to that, his hair doesn't photograph too well except under perfect lighting, it makes them a bit of a challenge!! Here's 5 of my KGV ones, can you spot all his hair?!
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​At least the mustache is quite visible and definitive in those photos. Really nice coins!

I know the feeling when grading Half Crowns, so tough to grade due to how many different ways they are graded. Phil and Neil can confirm just how wrong I was about grading them, their guidance helped me gain more interest. To help myself not get it wrong again, I bought a full British coin grading guide and never looked back since.

These might help grade them.....1893-1901



1902-1926


1927-1951





I sold off most of my half crowns post 1900 and only have a few left in decent grade. I only have the 1913, 1914, 1916 and 1917. The best grade I had was a 1918 which I sent to Neil not so long ago. Even though it was lustrous, the pics of the bust didn't show much fine detail when in reality it was easily a EF.

This is the 1913. I have played with the lighting and gamma to show as much detail as possible, but even then it still doesn't show the obverse as it looks in the hand.

Thanks for that info Fluke, am sure it will be helpful to a lot of us.

Another marker to note on the 1902 and forwards on HC's is the swirl of the angel in the harp. If it's very well defined you can move onto other things.

I collect the earlier ones too, but I didn't want to swamp the thread with coins nobody would have. If you're looking to sell any let me know though

I picked up this one today. 1849 small date, 8 over broken 8.

is it just me or does it look like a possible double strike?. It looks like the 9 and a few letters also double struck.

Could just be the lighting.......


I found these that highlight EdVII issues with hair clarity.

1st is normal lighting no flash and 2nd is with flash at a slightly higher angle.



Such a difference.....Shows it is best graded when you have it in hand because a picture can be deceptive. Unless you are the lucky type to find a bad pic but receive a gem because of bad image lighting.

Verweis : "Fluke"​is it just me or does it look like a possible double strike?. It looks like the 9 and a few letters also double struck.
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​Could just be the lighting.......
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​ I found these that highlight EdVII issues with hair clarity.
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​1st is normal lighting no flash and 2nd is with flash at a slightly higher angle.
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​Such a difference.....Shows it is best graded when you have it in hand because a picture can be deceptive. Unless you are the lucky type to find a bad pic but receive a gem because of bad image lighting.
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Very good eye. Double struck dates are common on the 1849 small date as it has a broken 8 originally I think. I don't know if it explains the double strike on the whole obverse, but I don't think it's that rare! (fairly rare coin in the first place though, so yea.)

Those Ed VII pictures are amazing. Really does go to show what a little lighting can do! Is that your 1902 crown?

I don't remember now, I think so. Hair relief is perfect for giving the example.

Oh you guys those are really nice. I hope to get there one day. Good luck in your coin hunting
UK coins are one of the hardest to grade. And with me it seems the more I learn the less I know. But will get there

I Figured out a good way to get better detail shots. 45degree angle light reflection using a diffused light source to stop the glare from the coin surface.


These are taken 30 seconds apart.

First in normal natural lit room.


Second using a diffused light source at 45 degree angle directly behind the coin, around 15 inches from the coin.


The light is placed the same distance as the camera but must always be directly behind of the coin and not off to the side.

This is the coin from the cable souvenir I bought recently. Took a while to gently get into it but was rewarded with a perfect BU 1902 reverse but sadly it was not a low tide variety. Beautiful coin though.

Back on topic, do you have the 1936 proof like strike HC?

Verweis : "Fluke"​Back on topic, do you have the 1936 proof like strike HC?
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Nope, I need that one!

Here's the obv of one of my KGV - It's just in natural light by the windowsill, but the hair shows better.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BKkntaPhpQY/?taken-by=oggycoins