Verweis : "You don't have to go by what Numista designates as a country. "You don't have to go by what Numista designates as a country.
The 300 Countries club is a Numista concept, so I believe we do have to go by Numista countries/sections, etc. I suppose they'll have to rename the club to something like the "250 Country Club" or the "300 Section Club", or (if things get broken down far enough) the "500 Section Club".
My own collection is organized by issuing authorities, which would include things like US/Connecticut, US/Massachusetts, Philippines(Spain), Philippines(US), Philippines, etc., only some of which are recognized by Numista.
You only have to follow along if you want to belong to the 300 club I guess. Otherwise count the countries as you see them and not how someone dictates them to you.
I had almost 280 countries and understood that collecting Seborga, Sealand etc won't make me happier despite incrementing the counter... Collect with your heart!
1) Trying to regroup some countries to clarify might be a good evolution. Then it might be interesting to call these groups as they are: Groups, groupings, regions, sets, ensembles, agregates, areas etc...
Then they are entities in these groups that we are used to name "countries" that are called now "sections". These entities are well determined in the space geography/hystory. The word "section" is not so precise.
So I propose to name the groups as GROUPS or AREAS, and sections still get the name of COUNTRIES or ENTITIES
And in our own profile please show together our "Groups number" and "Countries number".
At least, you won't have to change the paragraph "View the country list with your collection quantities." And by the way, does anybody care about his own number of coins of a group ?
2) Then what do we want to group ?
Are there historical groups or geographic groups, or vaguely a mix of history and geography, or a mess ?
Why the "French Colonies" is in the area "France" and not French West Africa ? Why "British west indies" in the area "UK" and not all other former british territories ?
You might group also "Rhodesia & Nyasaland" current countries, same for Korea. The group "Bohemia" includes now "Moravia" but not "Bohemia and Moravia" etc ....
So you can make any grouping you want, this is of little importance, we'll not enter "France" when we want to look at "St pierre et Miquelon",
but please,
let us play
with
our
Countriezzzz.
Main goal is to give historical entities countrylike listing so they will stop being listed as currencies.
I agree that sections might not be the best way of naming. With groups however, that is problematic, especially coming with good criteria about how we should divide them.
German states are best example, independent countries lumped into one country, all together equal to Tonkin? Not anymore.
For those who were counting countries, just look at sections count. That shows all the countries and there will be many more. Country count is for bigger groups.
I think its an extension from the idea of a country to a wider view of coin issuing entity.
back to the example of for example German states, usually it is a single country that mints their coins but some places in the past such as the German States, the country was split up by several States, cities and bishoprics that enjoyed their independence with sometimes their own ruler under the Holy Roman Empire.
Many of these Cities, States, Bishoprics... had the right to mint their own coins.
Different topic for Jarek, on the french side there seems to be some confusion.
do we have someone that will explain the changes that have and will be made?
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Verweis : "apuking"I think its an extension from the idea of a country to a wider view of coin issuing entity.
back to the example of for example German states, usually it is a single country that mints their coins but some places in the past such as the German States, the country was split up by several States, cities and bishoprics that enjoyed their independence with sometimes their own ruler under the Holy Roman Empire.
Many of these Cities, States, Bishoprics... had the right to mint their own coins.
Different topic for Jarek, on the french side there seems to be some confusion.
do we have someone that will explain the changes that have and will be made?
My colleague, Pejounet is not here at the moment. Any my French is non existent. Could you please translate my last two messages from here and post it here: https://fr.numista.com/forum/topic61822.html
Now it's really hard to have 300 Countries.
my new count is 252 Countries and 344 Sections.
I believe most of us will be out if we count the new definition of country by numista
Sorry no Swaps. Paraguay Post Office is to risky and they don't allow to send coins nor notes
Verweis : "andysla"Now it's really hard to have 300 Countries.
my new count is 252 Countries and 344 Sections.
I believe most of us will be out if we count the new definition of country by numista
it's not possible. Only 289 available 'countries' in the country list now
Trying to get a coin from each UN country with circulating coins. 20 to go!
I suspect the 300 countries club will have to split into 250 "new" countries club and 400 sections club
Or it could just include countries/sections up to second level only (by which system I currently have, I believe, 292). It would be hard to estimate, however.
Verweis : "Frenchlover"Lets see the list of unusual countries.
No member of the "300 countries club" gets coins from countries in black
Then in decreasing order of difficulty, colors switch down to the purple haze.
Only one member doesn't own a purple country, so, they are easier to catch
Update 2017 January the first.
413 countries : 6 with no collector, 159 with at least one collector
and 248 countries in common
One new member in the club. Now 24 members.
From 24th October 2016 to 1st January 2017:
312 -> 311 - 007mat (France)
343->346 - addrr (France)
318 - Al Louarn (Brittany)
314 -> 316 - alamir (Germany)
327 - auctionking65 (USA)
314 -> 316 - billymac11 (USA)
312 - Chasinva69 (USA)
387 - Erdvilla (Mexico)
369 -> 392 - eug (USA)
338 ->339 - Frenchlover (France)
361 - geraltttt82 (Poland)
322 - jadejackal (USA)
315 -> 321 - jelle (The Netherlands)
335 - loran34 (France)
323 -> 326 - mic-w-nl (The Netherlands)
305 -> 309 - muzz0000 (New Zealand)
310 -> 311 - Myeackle (USA)
359 -> 363 - NIGLO (France)
331 -> 333 - Numismaticroy (UK)
336 - Pott (USA)
329 - Redgie (Canada)
330 -> 331 - SRV5490 (USA)
320 -> 324 - sujit_kumar (USA)
338 -> 336 - Yorkie (UK)
Very nice work congradulation for that work. Will that list be updated under the new patern of countries soon. Thanks
We're not in a hurry to create a new issuer's club in addition there are some grumpy ones who dedicate to public obloquy this kind of performance
For the moment the holy roman empire is leading the edge, let see what will give the split of Islamic states, India princely states, sultanate states and kingdoms ...