1890 french indo china trade coin - piastre ?

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I have had this coin now for about 15 or 16 years. A friend gave it to me after finding that it had fallen out of a shipment crate at a warehouse. I have read a lot about this particular coin and it often being fake.

These are the best pictures that my iphone would take.

I am trying to find out if what I have is real, and what the worth of it is.

Thank you.
​Hello... are these images of the same coin?
If so I would say fake. It could however be a magician's coin.

Laurent
I collect anything: If it's Italian or Italian states i collect it even more!
yes it is the same coin. I read something about the magicians coin. can you tell me more?
Verweis : "rbmccoy"​yes it is the same coin. I read something about the magicians coin. can you tell me more?
​I'd need straight-on pictures of both sides very close and detailed if possible to be sure... Until then I'd call this a fake.
I collect anything: If it's Italian or Italian states i collect it even more!
It's a coin with this coin's obverse: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces7394.html

and this one's reverse: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces4510.html

Either a laughable fake or some kind of trick coin, although I'd think a magician would use a smaller coin rather than these big crowns.
Did you try some silver tests?
(magnet, ping ....)
Perhaps a wrong strike?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Indochinese_piastre
https://books.google.be/books?id=qf3XSIJqSZkC&pg=PA324&lpg=PA324&dq=mexico+1890+french+piastre&source=bl&ots=cPrDC-YzX8&sig=LuonveKXeX4k4gF4EEFk-A3QUQQ&hl=nl&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwibqsPC_araAhWGL1AKHchMA6wQ6AEIUTAI#v=onepage&q=mexico%201890%20french%20piastre&f=false
http://www.coinfactswiki.com/wiki/French_Indochina_1910-A_piastre
Non est totum quod splendet ut aurum
Rijkdom bestaat niet uit het hebben van veel bezittingen, maar in het hebben van weinig behoeften
Verweis : "PetrusAscanus"
​Perhaps a wrong strike?


​An entirely different coin's die being used on one face of the coin? I mean it probably happens, but I feel it's kind of a long shot.

The thickness visible in picture 2 seems to indicate it's not two coins wielded together, though.
Verweis : "CassTaylor"
Verweis : "PetrusAscanus"
​​Perhaps a wrong strike?


​​An entirely different coin's die being used on one face of the coin? I mean it probably happens, but I feel it's kind of a long shot.

​The thickness visible in picture 2 seems to indicate it's not two coins wielded together, though.
​Yeah. I agree with Cass here. I think this is a bad fake, but there are some weird circular lines around the rim that makes me wonder if this could be a magician's coin (tiny probability, and probably fake coins anyways.)
I collect anything: If it's Italian or Italian states i collect it even more!
If you drop it on a hard floor, does it come apart?
:D
Non est totum quod splendet ut aurum
Rijkdom bestaat niet uit het hebben van veel bezittingen, maar in het hebben van weinig behoeften


here are some more pictures of the coin, taken with a nikon camera.

the coin is very solid and has some weight to it. I took several different magnets and none of them stuck at all or indicated that they were trying to stick. when you tap it with something it sounds like any other coin would.
The rim on the Mexican side seems a bit too high.... just an observation, perhaps if it is silver, someone punched a Mexican 8 reales' obverse onto the reverse of a piastre? Maybe they had nothing better to do?

I'm still 75% sure it's a fake/copy/fantasy of some sort.

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