(First, note that I looked at the Numista policies and terms of service and didn't see anything that would rule out this message. If I'm wrong, please let me know.)
A US seller has a countermarked coin that interests me, but he doesn't ship anywhere outside the US. So, I'm looking for a regular user of the forums (i.e. someone I know) to whom I would send money via Paypal (including shipment to Canada, of course). You would simply buy the coin on eBay for me, get it at your home address, and then send it to me in Canada. Instead of money, I could send you Canadian or Newfoundland coins from the Victoria-George VI periods, or colonial tokens, etc. We could discuss that.
I'm afraid I can be of no assistance, but just a suggestion; (if I were in your shoes) perhaps you could buy the coin and then have the seller ship it to a trusted member's address in the USA, who would then send it to you in turn?
Thanks to all who have offered to help or made some suggestions, here or via DM.
So far as I can tell, if an eBay seller doesn't ship here, it's not possible to process a payment through eBay. Not only that -- it's not even possible to contact him/her!! One time I tried to contact a seller outside eBay, but I had a hard time even just to find his "real" business name. Everything I was trying with Google was giving me eBay results. And then I found an obsolete email address...
If anyone knows a way around this eBay restriction, I'd be happy to know!
I've done this for several trusted members without any problems. Usually though it's simply a matter of taking delivery of the coin, repacking it and sending it on and eventually being reimbursed via PayPal. The actual payment to the vendor has always been carried out without my involvement which would suggest that there's a way to transfer the money even if you are excluded by eBay / PayPal from doing so.
I'm happy to take delivery of coins on behalf of those I know and trust. Canada and most of Europe wouldn't be a problem but I'd be very hesitant to do so for anyone living in a third world country or with any kind of "lost mail" sob stories in their feedback. I'm a generally good natured and helpful kinda guy but I'm not an idiot.
I'd be more than happy to help you my dear Camerinvs in any way I'm able.
Non illegitimis carborundum est. Excellent advice for all coins.
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I got a number of replies from the great Numistists out there. One told me, via DM, that I can always contact the seller from inside eBay. There is, indeed, a link to contact any seller once you're on their page. From my (faulty?) recollection, however, once passing the captcha test, you get a window telling you bluntly the dealer can't be contacted. Next time, I'll try again and see what happens.
I'll post the coin here once I get it. It's an American coin with a Canadian connection...
Thank you all again, whether or not you were able to help.
Verweis : "Camerinvs"
I'll post the coin here once I get it. It's an American coin with a Canadian connection...
Thank you all again, whether or not you were able to help.
Sounds like a U. S. large cent with a Devins & Bolton counterstamp.
I have been on eBay since 1997, and occasionally run into similar circumstances. So long as you are eBay registered, it should not be a problem for you to buy the coin (although you may have to change your eBay address temporarily to the USA address, in order to bid in the auction). The key is be that you must use the correct USA delivery address on your PayPal payment, in the "Ship To" block.
Verweis : "halfdisme (1)"Sounds like a U. S. large cent with a Devins & Bolton counterstamp.
Not quite, but close.
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Verweis : "halfdisme (2)"I have been on eBay since 1997, and occasionally run into similar circumstances. So long as you are eBay registered, it should not be a problem for you to buy the coin (although you may have to change your eBay address temporarily to the USA address, in order to bid in the auction). The key is be that you must use the correct USA delivery address on your PayPal payment, in the "Ship To" block.
Whenever I find myself in the same situation, I'll share my experience on this forum.
Greg Brunk considers that H. PROVOST is a Canadian because his two other known countermarked coins are a Canadian large cent and a Canadian token. He also lists an 1880 Morgan dollar which is most certainly this coin.
My sincere thanks to all who offered help and advice, and special thanks to JustforFun who got the coin for me!
So, I have just placed an order with a dealer who doesn't ship to Canada. What I did this time around was to create a new shipping address (using that of a very nice Numista member) and make it my primary shipping address for the time of the transaction. I had to logout of eBay and login again for the update to become effective. To take no chance, I logged in on ebay.com rather than ebay.ca.
Hopefully everything will work fine. I'll keep you posted and show the coin when I get it.
I have a Youshop address in Portland Oregon for purchases in USA. It often works well for bigger items especially if they are shipped free in US., but for letter size its expensive.
You learn a little everyday. I didn't realise there was a demand for countermarked coins.
Is there demand for other countries countermarked coins?
I could have purchased a GB coin this week very cheaply, but thought it had been ruined by the countermark.
I googled it and see that YouShop is a service of the NZ Post, which makes sense since you're so far from the rest of us.
As for countermarks, yes, there is an interest in them. But it all depends what countermarks. Most of the time, you have either numbers or initials which cannot be linked to anyone, so those countermarks are usually uninteresting and of limited value. Some other countermarks can be traced back to some specific individuals or businesses, mostly from the 19th century when coins were quite extensively used for advertising. There are 1000s and 1000s of countermarks. The key reference work was published by Greg Brunk in 2003. His list of countermarks known to him is still up, though probably not for very long.
Verweis : "Camerinvs"Interesting. I see you are in New Zealand, so, what do you do next? Is Youshop a service that will redirect your mail to NZ for a fee?
Yes, mail is delivered to your own personal 'suite' number and once arrived you receive an invoice from NZPost. When that is paid the package is re-directed/shipped to your desired address in NZ. There is also a Youshop in London for European purchases.
I found a totally flattened copper disc in a job lot of coins. Thinking it was trash I almost threw it away. However on closer inspection it was found to be a South African (Suid Afrika) 2 cent coin - totally squashed to a diameter of 30mm - and countermarked 'E 4 H'
That sounds like an old coin which was reused as a token of some sort, such as a check number or an item number (e.g. you pay for a pale of tomatoes at the front counter, and go get them with your token at the back.
It's most likely you'll never know for sure what it was used for and where. Imagine, a couple of years ago I posted a British penny with a very neat THOMAS PETERS countermark, but the name is too common for anyone to be sure who the issuer was.
Verweis : "Camerinvs"So, I have just placed an order with a dealer who doesn't ship to Canada. What I did this time around was to create a new shipping address (using that of a very nice Numista member) and make it my primary shipping address for the time of the transaction. I had to logout of eBay and login again for the update to become effective. To take no chance, I logged in on ebay.com rather than ebay.ca.
Hopefully everything will work fine. I'll keep you posted and show the coin when I get it.
Hello all,
Apologies for reviving my own post... and for quoting myself. I said I would "keep you posted" (quoting my own quote).
So, everything went according to plan, and I received the coin this morning thanks to JustforFun whom I thank warmly again.
The countermark is that of a well-known Ontario cabinet-maker, T B Clench (his father, F S Clench, founder of the firm, is mentioned in this newspaper article). The added bonus is that the coin is an 1853 "rays around eagle" quarter, which is a one-year type. Here it is over the relevant entry in Brunk's book:
Again, there is a US dealer with a Canadian countermark that interests me but he doesn't ship to Canada. The auction ends tomorrow Tuesday at 4:04 pm (EDT). If any frequent user of the forums is OK with giving me his/her address, please PM me. I will simply use my Paypal with your US address for shipment, and use Paypal to reimburse you for shipping from your house to mine (which should be about $10).
This time it's a Devins & Bolton c/m on an 1831 US large cent.
You can always send it to my place... I will be traveling next week, but there is always someone to received, I will be able to forwarded by the last week of the month.
Verweis : "JustforFun"Hi Guy
You can always send it to my place... I will be traveling next week, but there is always someone to received, I will be able to forwarded by the last week of the month.
Cheers.
Wow! That was fast! Thanks so much JustforFun. I didn't want to bother you a third time!
I will do as before, but this time I'll have to send you a little something beyond the postage fee...
