I think it looks like 2 pai from Hyderabad but... [gelöst]

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Hello!

Can anyone read the letters on this coin? I did some research and it looks like 2 pai from Hyderabad, but the tughra? (or monogram?) in the inner circle on the reverse doesn't seem to match, from any angle. Maybe different values?

I do not have measurement for this coin at the moment, but can add later if it's necessary.

Twopence a week, and jam every other day!
Hello once more!

You're certainly right about Hyderabad, but judging by the central lettering on the reverse, your coin is the 1 Pai:
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces27674.html

Diameter is your key to telling apart these Hyderabad issues unless you're literate in Urdu. ;)
By the way, the tughra refers to the swirly motif on the other side of the coin; it's a sort of signature usually seen mainly on Ottoman coins, but also appears on some IPS coins (like Bahawalpur and of course, Hyderabad).

Hope that helps!
Ohhh thank you, I see now! I was pretty close to the answer then, it's a wonder why I didn't find out it was a coin of different value.

And thank you also about the tughra thing, I only knew a little about it and didn't know what it really was (and I see! my first guess was that this was from Ottoman) and hopefully this knowledge may help if I come across another of these Indian/Ottoman coins!
Twopence a week, and jam every other day!
The date looks like AH1344 (green)
regnal year (red) : 12 ?
Non est totum quod splendet ut aurum
Rijkdom bestaat niet uit het hebben van veel bezittingen, maar in het hebben van weinig behoeften
Sorry Petrus, that's not correct. The numbers in red aren't the regnal year, it's 92 and 92 is the numerical representation of the word 'Muhammad'.
The regnal year is on the reverse, in the red circle and this second picture has to be turned 90° degrees clockwise:
That's where the regnal year is? That's kind of amazing! I wonder what's written in the outer circle.

Also, 92 representing Muhammad is rather interesting! It's so nice how I can learn new things every day on this site, haha.

Anyway, thank you for the information! It really helps!
Twopence a week, and jam every other day!
Verweis : "Cuthwellis"​Ohhh thank you, I see now! I was pretty close to the answer then, it's a wonder why I didn't find out it was a coin of different value.



​Ain't nothing to it, mate! Feel free to ask some more on anything you're not sure about. :`

As for the lettering, there's an approximate translation for the Urdu on the outer section of the reverse on the coin's page:

"One pie, struck at Farkhanda bunyad, Hyderabad, in the (RY) 15th year of tranquil prosperity"
Verweis : "Essor Prof"​Sorry Petrus, that's not correct. The numbers in red aren't the regnal year, it's 92 and 92 is the numerical representation of the word 'Muhammad'.
​The regnal year is on the reverse, in the red circle and this second picture has to be turned 90° degrees clockwise:
​wooo, yes indeed, very stupid of me (apparently I am getting too old...B.)
Haseeb has the '92' explanation on his site:
Note: Numeral 92 is observed on almost all coins of Hyderabad. It is not the Reginal year of the state or any king or something related to the rank of Nizam or mint identification. It is the Numerical Value of the name "Muhammad". In Islam Prophet Muhammad is praised and honored, therefore Muslims do not want his name to touched with unclean hands or thrown on the floor. For this reason they represent it with the numerical sum. Muhammad: Mim + Ha + Mim + Dal = 40 + 8 + 40 + 4 = 92.
scroll down here:
http://www.chiefacoins.com/Database/Countries/Hyderabad.htm
Non est totum quod splendet ut aurum
Rijkdom bestaat niet uit het hebben van veel bezittingen, maar in het hebben van weinig behoeften
Verweis : "PetrusAscanus"​​​wooo, yes indeed, very stupid of me (apparently I am getting too old...B.)
It's not stupid of you. On a lot of coins having a toughra the regnal year is somewhere around the toughra. But not on this one.
Verweis : "Essor Prof"​Sorry Petrus, that's not correct. The numbers in red aren't the regnal year, it's 92 and 92 is the numerical representation of the word 'Muhammad'.
​The regnal year is on the reverse, in the red circle and this second picture has to be turned 90° degrees clockwise:


​Yes, but I should have known it...B.
Non est totum quod splendet ut aurum
Rijkdom bestaat niet uit het hebben van veel bezittingen, maar in het hebben van weinig behoeften
Hey! I have one of those... I spent a lot of time looking at Ottoman coins with no success.

Then I looked around other "royal" states that used tugras(?) and found the Hyderabad 1-2 pai.

Mine is not in super awesome shape, and it appears to be 20mm or so in diameter, hence 2 pai.



However, I struggle with the Urdu numerical script, and the wear on the coin does not help.



So, if I'm reading this right, and since "4" in Urdu looks a bit different than in Arabic..

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/images/56b4a6358c149.jpg

2 Pai, Y35 - 1324 (1906) // 40?
You're reading this right. It's 2 Pai 1324/40 (https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces22299.html)
Verweis : "Essor Prof"​You're reading this right. It's 2 Pai 1324/40 (https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces22299.html)
​Seconded!

I remember the first time I had to read the date on a Hyderabadi coin as well, by the end of it my eyes hurt literally from the strain. :O

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