Hello Friends, check out the profiles, All 3 are same person and gave rating to himself. If you had confirmed the swap with him do not send him any coins or you will lose them. 15 swaps on road, too many people are on the way to get scammed by this person..... https://en.numista.com/echanges/profil.php?id=119735
I am very curious who is the person behind these profiles (if it's the same person, but most probably yes). Hungary is a relatively small country with a few thousands collectors, if it turns out that he is a member of the Numismatic Society or an active Hungarian numismatic Facebook group and at the same time a scammer, he would be removed from the Society and the groups as well.
It's such a sad thing, this guy is openly mocking the community, check out his profile,
"" D 7 idiot sent me letter. Never saw again me. LoL i create a new profile ( not in hungary) and i collecting more coins XXX"
and admins are blindly letting this happen. I reported this guy when it was only 6 swaps on road and no warning appeared to his profile even after he trapped 15 person. This could have stopped if Numista Admins taken timely action.
Still on his other profile Numbers of swaps had increased.
I came to advise my situation with this collector (I'm not a regular to get into the forum) and I've already found this post.
Without read it, few days ago I came to the same conclusion about the three profiles belongs to the same person (Very suspicious the comments of ratings, similar doubles, collector from Hungary...etc), I feel like a detective.
My current experiencie with Numismaster is the following:
I contact him to make a swap and we make a agreement (He had only one positive in the few days he has a account). Before I make a deal a always send a photo of the coins I will send (It´s a personal habit), however he doesn´t send nothing (At de moment, he is in its right, it doesn´t have to do it).
I accorded to him to send my letter this Monday 24th and he in theory sent to me the coins on Friday 21st. I say in theory because he gave me a wrong Track number (It doesn´t exist in any post website). Before decide to report him I prefer to be conservative and ask him about this problem. He replied me with this argument:
"Hello Miguel
I was today in Budapest in the central post office and i asking about the track numbers. They said me , your letter is in Budapest yet and after 26 th will send abroad the letters. I hope just this is the problem.
I hope you get it soon.
Adam"
From there, I stopped trusting in him (The track number didn´t work yet). I´ve realized that he wore many swaps on road and he didn´t delete the doubles, so my confidence was zero.
I decided (wise decision for me fortunately) not to send the letter last monday 24th and I then I took the decision to report him to avoid scams to other collector who are not as lucky as me.
By private message he recognize me that he won´t send any letter. After that, he rate me negative as if a were the swindle.
I feel worried about this last because I´m a honest collector and I have a bad and unfair rating from a person who tried to swindle me. Unfairly, a negative rating to me decrease the reability from others collector to me to make swaps in the future. I beg to the moderators and administrators to report him and solve the problem with my negative rating. I could provide all the proof would be necessary
I did a quick search on this person, he tried to scam collectors in Hungarian numismatic facebook groups so he was kicked out a long ago.
I don't know what can be done legally, as the collectors he deceived all live in different countries. Hungary is in the EU, so maybe if you live in an EU country too and he deceived you, you should go to your local police (you have his name and address, that should be enough) and report what happened (print screen his profile and everything in connection with your "swap"). Let's hope that there is some level of cooperation between the countries. If this swindler at least gets a nice letter from the police he will think twice before trying to scam anyone again. He deceived you because he thought that he can't be caught for it and he will do this again and again until someone makes him stop. According to Hungarian law if somone commits the same crime more times his punishment will be more serious. He deceived more than 10 collectors.
Finally, a quick note about tracking numbers in Hungary: there are still post offices here where there are no scanners and the tracking numbers are scanned and appear on the Hungarian Post's website only when the letter arrives to the capital and it is scanned there, it may take a few days. However, every time (doesn't matter where you send from) Hungarian Post gives the sender a receipt of the registered letter with the datas of the mail (sender's name and address, addressee's name and address, weight, price of sending, date of sending and tracking number), ask for a scan of this paper if you don't see the tracking number after a few days.
Its pity ,to see the response of so called active community of Numista where some powerful members of Community actively discuss there silver collection ,take there precious time uploading snaps of there latest expensive purchases, discuss how many countries they have visited and tons of replies on crazy Topics ...are silently watching this and letting this Happen.
I believe we are in Community only when we help one another ,are people are afraid of this crook or they think as it didn't happened with me its not my problem ......
This could have been easily avoided by active participate .........
A simple modification on Numista can save many people,In the profile page were we can see the number of swaps on Road should be change with IDs of members with whom the swaps on Road are,why Wait for ratings to clear up the things its like who will bell the cat first! people are afraid to rate negative first knowingly they have been cheated and wait for someone first to write rating so the cheater will spoil there ratings also if they rate negative and the crook take advantage of this silence and cheat more people..reporting a member doesn't work it take time ,I guess admins are busy with some other work .....if the IDs appear as swap on road members can discuss among themselves if there is any suspicion and the issue can be handle at very initial level. I hope this would be possible in 2019 to make NUMISTA a better place for swaps for new users....
Verweis : "VieillePile"@ Arvin11
Did you report yourself anything ?
Profiles have been banned by moderators the day they have been duly reported.
In case of doubt, do not swap but report.
Yes I reported when he was only having 6 swaps on road ...
I don't know what do you mean by banned- he is actvily making swaps on his other profile and his main profile is still active???
Of course, the main cheater profile is still active and can still cheat.
MRZ92 - you're right. You wanted to help other collectors and you gave a negative rating and did a very good job. Only the crookor gave you a negative rating. And what now ?
Such assessments should be canceled by moderators.
I also have an accepted exchange with this collector.
I am already an experienced user and I will not be able to roll out. I told him to send the coins first.
he gave me the number of the letter which can not be found anywhere in the system. So, briefly speaking, cheating.
Of course, I did not send my coins, but I will not give a negative rating because it can become the same as with my friend MRZ92.
I will get a fraudulent negativity that will be visible and will lower my grades.
I think that after so many entries, such an account should be removed long ago.
Hello Community
Immediately I ask all collectors to stand up for honorary members and insist on deleting the negative rating from the fraudster as a revenge for publicity. Administrators do !!!
@ BSmith I will inform about possible legal actions and ways to proceed in this kind of situations (It´s the first time this happens to me) fortunately in my swap he didn´t get to scam me.
About tracking number in Hungary you write, that´s one of the reason I keep calm and I didn´t report him at the beggining. Sometimes It may take a few days to appear on website (Location of track number) but in this case when I made sure he was lying me I report him to avoid massive scams.
@ arvin11 I agree with your opinion that we should look for the community not only individual because it´s important to make Numista a safe place to swap however you sometimes have to consider the presumption of innocence. I suspected from him since he sent me wrong track number but I decided to report him a few days later (When he "answered" about the problem of track number and I made sure he was a scammer).
Probably if I had reported from the first time I suspected more frauds could have been avoided, but, if I would be wrong and he was inocent? It´s sometimes difficult my friend to be sure at 100%.
@ ciusek thank you very much for your words. It´s a pity a have unfairly a negative rate from him. The funny thing is that he valued me negatively first when he realized that I had discovered him as a swammer. I hope that community could delete the negative rates he send to other members.
A collector from Slovakia (user name: jozefpalik) contacted me today and asked me to write you the following message as he doesn't visit the forum often and his English is not good so he can't write it himself.
This user opened a swap with him a few days ago but as he knew about the previous scams he denied to swap with him, and wrote him that he won't discuss swaps with scammers:
On his main profile (this one: https://en.numista.com/echanges/profil.php?id=119735), the scammer stated that he will open new profiles with different locations than Hungary. Jozefpalik suspects that this new Spanish profile belong to the same Hungarian scammer.
I too got the message about this Oscar 1972 , Jozefpalik contacted me also ,probably the same person again.The Admins can easily detect this they has access to web site.
This guy have 15 swaps confirmed and 2 Numista members have already rate him with 0 stars.
This make me remember a swindler from france some years ago that have cheat some 30 members (me included). With that sad episode Numista team have add the tool "swaps on the road".
https://en.numista.com/echanges/profil.php?id=120167
With this collector I was exchanging and accepted from two sides.
At my insistence he was supposed to send the coins first.
He gave me the tracking number:CP294619463HU
it's a fake number
It would be a good thing for the collector to put in a negative comment.
But thanks to our moderators who do nothing about it, I'm afraid to give such a comment, because the cheater will also show a negative for me.
I have already reported to the authorities twice that there is a problem with this man, unfortunately I did not get any answer.
This cheater has two positive comments but from whom?
From the same person - he is the crook.
You could warn other collectors by issuing an exhibition, but as I wrote, I am also afraid that I will issue a negation.
Such accounts should be closed and negative marks removed from the cheater
