Fake Mexican 8 Reales 1884? [gelöst]

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Finally got round to cataloging a collection that I have been accumulating for years and I can't remember where I got this. The obverse doesn't look right and the reverse is all wrong (can't find any pictures like it). At 39mm and approx 30g the dimensions match. Any ideas?
Clearly a very bad fake. Weight is way off.


https://coinquest.com/cgi-bin/cq/coins.pl?coin=533
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces7394.html
harryg - is it just the weight that bothers you? I only stuck it on the kitchen scales - it should be 27g and at 30g I think it's within the accuracy of the scales.
The obverse is so bad it is obvious. Sorry, I corrected the Numista link in my previous post. Also, Mexico was not generous in offering more silver in a coin than specified. That is unless your scale is way off.
The reverse was so bad I wondered if it was a different coin. Seems strange that someone would make such a bad fake. I think someone gave it to me years ago as it might be "interesting", so no clue where it came from. Thanks for responding
Profiteers looking for easy targets is not uncommon. You don't know what you don't know until you do know. If you are not learning, you are dying.X-D
Also found this for you.

https://www.ngccoin.com/price-guide/world/mexico-first-republic-8-reales-km-377.13-1825-1897-cuid-1118386-duid-1422100
Verweis : "johnpares"The obverse doesn't look right and the reverse is all wrong
Agreed - the cactus is redesigned, and the reverse with a rising sun over water is wrong.
Probably not a counterfeit from that time, to deceive anyone, even if silver plated;
and the 10D lettering denotes the amount of silver (8R = 8 Reales). Maybe just a tourist replica.

Token collector [1600-1899] with some coins
Thanks for the link - would have been nice to have the real thing :)
I'm learning a lot by actually cataloging what I have! Should have done it years ago
Verweis : "ZacUK"
Verweis : "johnpares"The obverse doesn't look right and the reverse is all wrong
​ Agreed

​The obverse was so bad I didnt even bother to look at the reverse.
Probably made at the same place as this token with the same reverse ...
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces71545.html
and the lettering United Maxxico America on the different obverse;
which within that link is an interesting article about that place.
Token collector [1600-1899] with some coins
Verweis : "ZacUK"​ Probably made at the same place as this token with the same reverse ...
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces71545.html
​and the lettering United Maxxico America on the different obverse;


​I vaguely remember visiting Maxxico once after I had a few shots of Tequila.:8D
The Maxxico reverse is the same as yours ...
Token collector [1600-1899] with some coins
Interesting! Following the link from ZacUK's link... there's an article on someone who collects the counterfeits - obviously quite a range of them around. Think I might have a Chinese "silver" dollar from the same place.
fake replica
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