The black list of swindlers

I just got a request for a swap from a person from India who has been a member of Numista since  4 March 2013 and has alrady 3 (5 star) feedback!!  all from the 4.marts ...
1.  "great packing. superb. "
2.  "All Unc coins. Fast shipping. Reliable "
3.  "No words to say...........Excellent "
 I believe I will skip the swap

Verweis : minorI just got a request for a swap from a person from India who has been a member of Numista since  4 March 2013 and has alrady 3 (5 star) feedback!!  all from the 4.marts ...
1.  "great packing. superb. "
2.  "All Unc coins. Fast shipping. Reliable "
3.  "No words to say...........Excellent "
 I believe I will skip the swap

I received the same proposal.

He has not many coins for swap.

The only evaluations he got are from other new swappers who live in the same state of India (Orissa) and who also have 2 or 3 evaluations.

Be careful

Of course, I can give the name in a PM as the moderators are terrible          

That's ok, I'm always up for getting banned, as long as it's for a good reason.

Judge for yourself, make them send first...

https://en.numista.com/echanges/profil.php?id=31091
https://en.numista.com/echanges/profil.php?id=30026
https://en.numista.com/echanges/profil.php?id=30188
https://en.numista.com/echanges/profil.php?id=28493

Getting three positive ratings on my first day on Numista would have been a miracle. These guys don't even leave room for overnight delivery. Whether you are planning a scam or making yourself look like you are scamming, same amateur status applies. They should be checked out for IP addresses and questioned by forum staff as to their swaps. It's only been a day, I'd ask for photos of the addressed and stamped envelopes the coins arrived in from the bunch of them.

Bravo Torontokuba

O  tego chodzi

It is very suspicious..

Thanks for quick action

Verweis : torontokubaThat's ok, I'm always up for getting banned, as long as it's for a good reason.

Judge for yourself, make them send first...

https://en.numista.com/echanges/profil.php?id=31091
https://en.numista.com/echanges/profil.php?id=30026
https://en.numista.com/echanges/profil.php?id=30188
https://en.numista.com/echanges/profil.php?id=28493

Getting three positive ratings on my first day on Numista would have been a miracle. These guys don't even leave room for overnight delivery. Whether you are planning a scam or making yourself look like you are scamming, same amateur status applies. They should be checked out for IP addresses and questioned by forum staff as to their swaps. It's only been a day, I'd ask for photos of the addressed and stamped envelopes the coins arrived in from the bunch of them.

yo yo  

Verweis : Hemert2013

Verweis : torontokubaThat's ok, I'm always up for getting banned, as long as it's for a good reason.

Judge for yourself, make them send first...

https://en.numista.com/echanges/profil.php?id=31091
https://en.numista.com/echanges/profil.php?id=30026
https://en.numista.com/echanges/profil.php?id=30188
https://en.numista.com/echanges/profil.php?id=28493

Getting three positive ratings on my first day on Numista would have been a miracle. These guys don't even leave room for overnight delivery. Whether you are planning a scam or making yourself look like you are scamming, same amateur status applies. They should be checked out for IP addresses and questioned by forum staff as to their swaps. It's only been a day, I'd ask for photos of the addressed and stamped envelopes the coins arrived in from the bunch of them.

yo yo  

Never thought Yo yo was indicative of a good swap...hmmm

Yo, Yo means Come, Come! I'll check them out as soon as possible: also, if you do find this sort of thing let me know via PM and I can research these members as soon as possible. I need your help to check members as I can't be checking all 29,000 +/- on my own!

Verweis : minorI just got a request for a swap from a person from India who has been a member of Numista since  4 March 2013 and has alrady 3 (5 star) feedback!!  all from the 4.marts ...
1.  "great packing. superb. "
2.  "All Unc coins. Fast shipping. Reliable "
3.  "No words to say...........Excellent "
 I believe I will skip the swap

He just send a photo of a coin from an E-bay auction in the United States two me

Verweis : cncote10

Verweis : Hemert2013

Verweis : torontokubaThat's ok, I'm always up for getting banned, as long as it's for a good reason.

Judge for yourself, make them send first...

https://en.numista.com/echanges/profil.php?id=31091
https://en.numista.com/echanges/profil.php?id=30026
https://en.numista.com/echanges/profil.php?id=30188
https://en.numista.com/echanges/profil.php?id=28493

Getting three positive ratings on my first day on Numista would have been a miracle. These guys don't even leave room for overnight delivery. Whether you are planning a scam or making yourself look like you are scamming, same amateur status applies. They should be checked out for IP addresses and questioned by forum staff as to their swaps. It's only been a day, I'd ask for photos of the addressed and stamped envelopes the coins arrived in from the bunch of them.

yo yo  

Never thought Yo yo was indicative of a good swap...hmmm

The first and the last are the same person. The other two seem ok...but I would be careful. They might live in the same city but I am unsure as to how they are related, however, they might be part of a coin club and thought they could mark up their swaps on here...anyway either way...watch out. I'll keep my eyes wide open on this. PM me if you think you know/ think someone is a scammer.
A French member asked me to check someone out: they had 3 accounts.

Perfectly picked up by my pedantic Polish pal.

Verweis : pnightingalePerfectly picked up by my pedantic Polish pal.

Who is your pedantic polish pal?

Verweis : bam777A French member asked me to check someone out: they had 3 accounts.

How about a few links to their profiles?

Verweis : szmata

Verweis : pnightingalePerfectly picked up by my pedantic Polish pal.

Who is your pedantic polish pal?

My dearest Torontokuba, who is the resident pedant and the only person I allow the liberty of critiquing my flawless prose.

Verweis : pnightingale

Verweis : szmata

Verweis : pnightingalePerfectly picked up by my pedantic Polish pal.

Who is your pedantic polish pal?

My dearest Torontokuba, who is the resident pedant and the only person I allow the liberty of critiquing my flawless prose.

I know him too as I also speak polish

Verweis : pnightingale...and the only person I allow the liberty of critiquing my flawless prose.

Thanks, your ramblings are very enjoyable to read and critique. Which reminds me, I like these sort of warm and fuzzy moments... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlbNq4hRfTE

Verweis : minor

Verweis : minorI just got a request for a swap from a person from India who has been a member of Numista since  4 March 2013 and has alrady 3 (5 star) feedback!!  all from the 4.marts ...
1.  "great packing. superb. "
2.  "All Unc coins. Fast shipping. Reliable "
3.  "No words to say...........Excellent "
 I believe I will skip the swap

He just send a photo of a coin from an E-bay auction in the United States two me

And to me he said he has no scanner and his camera was stolen!

Anyone else see a pattern or two emerging here?

This is why there are certain countries I just won't deal with.

Yeah I know... racist, xenophobe, etc. etc. blah blah blah, I've heard it all before so save your breath.

"Yeah I know ... racist, xenophobe, etc."

When the book stated "Judge not, except that you be judged", the real interpretation was/is more appropriately "Do not make unfounded judgements ..."

Otherwise, we are precluded from using our common sense. Not everyone, nor every culture, nor every race is equal. Everyone or group of people, has assets and liabilities. The discerning person or group should use their common sense in making judgements.

There is an entire continent to which I'd never send first, plus, if I'm aware that a potential trader practices specific one religion, then they must send first. This is being sensible.

Another guy to be beware of  "pira xxxx".  I think looking at good feedbacks all obtained within a few days which is suspicious.

What, followed by the year of Denmark joining the EU? He's up there somewhere.

He has two accounts and not to be trusted.

https://en.numista.com/echanges/profil.php?id=27736

Verweis : madhunagaAnother guy to be beware of  "pira xxxx".  I think looking at good feedbacks all obtained within a few days which is suspicious.

He's been mentioned before...

The Numista website has generated a Warning...

https://en.numista.com/echanges/membre.php?id=23355

Verweis : dptashnyhttps://en.numista.com/echanges/profil.php?id=27736

The Numista website has generated a Warning...

https://en.numista.com/echanges/membre.php?id=27736

Two little Indians......

https://en.numista.com/echanges/profil.php?id=31127

https://en.numista.com/echanges/profil.php?id=31178

Clearly the much discussed shortcomings of the Indian postal service are simply the result of unfounded rumours spread by racist haters. Delivery is so amazingly fast these two fellers managed to sign up for a couple of numista accounts, negotiate a swap, pack and mail the coins, receive them, unpack and asses them and then exchange feedback all on the same day.

By a strange coincidence they also live in the same town and even have the same URL for their personal websites.

Users to avoid..

You should be able to check the validity of these guys' swaps, doesn't Numista's terms of service claim that moderators can view PM's? If only Xavier can, he should let some of the team do it to protect us all.

It's sad that it's come to this sort of thing.

Verweis : manxcat12You should be able to check the validity of these guys' swaps, doesn't Numista's terms of service claim that moderators can view PM's? If only Xavier can, he should let some of the team do it to protect us all.

It's sad that it's come to this sort of thing.

We are starting to crack down on these people. We are deleting swap ratings when it is clearly from a duplicate account etc.
We are working on protecting you all.

Verweis : bam777

Verweis : manxcat12You should be able to check the validity of these guys' swaps, doesn't Numista's terms of service claim that moderators can view PM's? If only Xavier can, he should let some of the team do it to protect us all.
It's sad that it's come to this sort of thing.

We are starting to crack down on these people. We are deleting swap ratings when it is clearly from a duplicate account etc.
We are working on protecting you all.

Thanks to you Ben and the rest of the team, your hard work is much appreciated by all the honest Numista members (though, I suspect, not by the crooks!)  

Duplicates / sock puppets:
https://en.numista.com/echanges/profil.php?id=28493
https://en.numista.com/echanges/profil.php?id=31468
https://en.numista.com/echanges/profil.php?id=30188
https://en.numista.com/echanges/profil.php?id=30026
https://en.numista.com/echanges/profil.php?id=30242
https://en.numista.com/echanges/profil.php?id=24134
https://en.numista.com/echanges/profil.php?id=29981
https://en.numista.com/echanges/profil.php?id=30196
https://en.numista.com/echanges/profil.php?id=30460

All signed up at more or less the same date, allready happily exchanging feedback, all from the same town, the same town as the last lot of Indian Sock Puppets came from. The first scams have already taken place.

You're welcome.

How about the new Canada guy, joint 8 days ago?
He had one positive feedback, which I can't find anymore?
Why he has a warning, while there is not any feedback(anymore)?
I just made a nice swap with him, send him my coins and waiting for his

Verweis : mic-w-nlHow about the new Canada guy, joint 8 days ago?
He had one positive feedback, which I can't find anymore?
Why he has a warning, while there is not any feedback(anymore)?
I just made a nice swap with him, send him my coins and waiting for his

Hi Michel
I also ask myself the same questions, there is no one who can clarify this situation?
Ernesto

His account and the other one that is alike are himself and his daughter.

Verweis : bam777His account and the other one that is alike are himself and his daughter.

Hi bam777
Thank you for your reply, can you give me the daughter account please.
Thank you
Ernesto

Not really...PM me.

So........ do I have to put on my Iron Man suit and go to India myself?

Verweis : pnightingaleSo........ do I have to put on my Iron Man suit and go to India myself?

I don't know about the IRON MAN suit. In my opinion, your blonde locks and disposition fit the "Mr. Nanny" role a little better. He also lives close to you. I can see you in a pink tutu. If you are planning a trip to India, be careful where you bend over. These days, they seem awful randy down there.  

Verweis : pnightingaleSo........ do I have to put on my Iron Man suit and go to India myself?

Ya know Phil it's pretty sad when you think about it... Those guys are ruining swapping for any legit people in India or similar countries

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What is really sad is that, courtesy of sock puppet trades, these bastards have better feedback scores than I do.

So much for being 100% honest and ready to do the right thing whatever the cost.

I'm so pissed off right now.

Verweis : pnightingaleI'm so pissed off right now.

I feel your pain...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUwRtZzARJo

The sock-puppetry is strong in this one:

https://en.numista.com/echanges/profil.php?id=32026

Verweis : pnightingaleThe sock-puppetry is strong in this one:

https://en.numista.com/echanges/profil.php?id=32026

Totally same day delivery! Takes swapping to a whole new level :)

Verweis : cncote10Totally same day delivery! Takes swapping to a whole new level :)

Maybe he walked round to his house and hand delivered the coins; sounds feasible to me.  

I am an Indian national living in Singapore. I am very saddened by some people who tend to cheat others. But please don't think all Indians are cheats. There are many genuine coin collectors out there. We need to be careful to identify them and deal with the right ones.

Also recently I was in India and found that Indian postal services don't allow coins to be posted, and most of the posts get returned after 1-2 months in customs to the sender - even registered posts. So some of my friends are sending coins to another city or state from where another friend posts them and so on. It is really very cumbersome to post coins from India. This is the fact.

I gave sw00e a bad feedback, becasue I don't trust. I send my coins, he say he also did, but is swapping some of these rare coins multiple times! Let him send first!

https://en.numista.com/echanges/profil.php?id=31635

Thanks, I will!  

Verweis : mic-w-nlI gave swapose a bad feedback, becasue I don't trust. I send my coins, he say he also did, but is swapping some of these rare coins multiple times! Let him send first!

He didn't have a Newfoundland address by any chance did he?

Please edit your messages and keep place a link to the swapper mentioned above.
If you are not happy: DON'T SEND. I'm away and will sort this situation out when I get back. ZacUK is on guard!

Thank you bam777 and ZacUK for keeping this a great site.  

Hi guys,
I think sw00 now will try to use his second account ( his 11 year daughter!?) on Numista to swindler.
That's
https://en.numista.com/echanges/membre.php?id=31322
Be aware!!

Thanks Michel. I've put a warning note to myself on "her" profile.

Sw*&% claims he is a 11 year old herself. Swindled me out of $150 worth of coins

Incidently ng****has also swindled me. Told me he sent coins when none turned up.
When I checked his mails I found he claimed that he has sent coins on two different dates. So it's obvious he is lying. It is ironical he has set up a post on " black list of swindlers " when he is a swindler himself.

So far I've never been scammed. Although I've only been collecting for about 2 years now..
Hope I never get scammed....
Until I read this post, I didn't know scammers slithered on this site.
   

January 25 coins sent by registered mail
coins ordered until today I have not received
Errejota does not respond per Lists
I'm disappointed.
I do not recommend

Hi, my friend

I am Szmata, from France (we had a swap and I have "family" , "rodzine" in Piaseczno).

Concerning South America, sometimes you have to wait long before receiving the coins you are waiting for.

In your case, it is of course suspicious if your correspondent does not answer your messages.

Do you have his private e-mail?

If you contact him through Numista you can check if he opened or not your messages (if he opened the icon is white blue and if he did not the icon is dark blue)

So you can see if he is  "wiarygodny".

If not his exclusion should be requested;

Best regards and "pozdrawiam"

Jean

Witaj Jean.
Dziękuję Ci za poradę i zainteresowanie.
Jesteś prawdziwym przyjacielem.
Do zobaczenia w Piasecznie

The Numista website has generated a Warning...

https://en.numista.com/echanges/membre.php?id=23060

The Numista website has generated a Warning...

https://en.numista.com/echanges/membre.php?id=27123

this user's sent coins have not arrived to the swap partners
https://en.numista.com/echanges/profil.php?id=22149

then he returns the negative feedback and invents blatant lies. Now he asks me to ask Xavier to remove both of us's negative feedback! LOL

Verweis : mic-w-nlI gave sw00e a bad feedback, becasue I don't trust. I send my coins, he say he also did, but is swapping some of these rare coins multiple times! Let him send first!

https://en.numista.com/echanges/profil.php?id=31635

He (or Numista team?) cancelled his (first) account. For the victims, I have his Email, if you want to disturb him some longer...

Verweis : mic-w-nlHe (or Numista team?) cancelled his (first) account. For the victims, I have his Email, if you want to disturb him some longer...

WOW! How does Numista allow 18 negative feedbacks to take place in 24 days? I wonder who is going to try and beat that record at the expense of Numista members? Until an explanation and real life, feasible deterrents are put in place, I will keep my defenses on high alert. Swapping with the same reliable circle, will be enough for me. What a shame.

This is incredible!

Was there any alert concerning this guy?

And why did so many people send so many coins as he had no feedback at all?????

When there is no feedback the guy should send his coins first!

Verweis : szmataThis is incredible!

Was there any alert concerning this guy?

And why did so many people send so many coins as he had no feedback at all?????

When there is no feedback the guy should send his coins first!

This was really not a good case. I was ask to look into it by someone and I did. I discovered that they had a duplicate account. I wrote to swapose asking about this. He/She lied and said it was there 11 year old daughter...I told them off for rating themselves and Xavier removed their rating. The rest was a lot of scamming...but why are people happy to trade with scammers? The moment I see 5 blanks...that is a no no for me.

You are right!

I cannot understand why people swapped with him...


There are probably some masochists in Numista  (sorry!)

Anyway, when there is no feedback ans even only a few positive...the guy must send his coins first....

Yup.

He offered me a swap (before all the 0's sprung up), and, having witnessed the coinsoldier debacle, told him he had to send first. Never heard from him again.  That's all you need to do to get rid of this scum.

Verweis : bam777

Verweis : szmata.... The rest was a lot of scamming...but why are people happy to trade with scammers? The moment I see 5 blanks...that is a no no for me.

Most swaps happened in his first 2 weeks, before the 3rd of April, when there was no warning. With a attractive list of doubles, it's easy to get quickly a few big swaps.

Verweis : mic-w-nl

Verweis : bam777

Verweis : szmata.... The rest was a lot of scamming...but why are people happy to trade with scammers? The moment I see 5 blanks...that is a no no for me.

Most swaps happened in his first 2 weeks, before the 3rd of April, when there was no warning. With a attractive list of doubles, it's easy to get quickly a few big swaps.

When the list is too attractive...be careful Thera are no miracles

Verweis : szmata

Verweis : mic-w-nl

Verweis : bam777

Verweis : szmata.... The rest was a lot of scamming...but why are people happy to trade with scammers? The moment I see 5 blanks...that is a no no for me.

Most swaps happened in his first 2 weeks, before the 3rd of April, when there was no warning. With a attractive list of doubles, it's easy to get quickly a few big swaps.

When the list is too attractive...be careful Thera are no miracles

I had flagged off that swapose is the same as soccerqueen. Soccerquen too had many expensive 20$ Canada coins for swap. I minute ,I threatened swapose and I send repeated mesages on swapose's BlackBerry threatening to complain to Ontario police about swapose and soccerqueen's cyberscam, soccerqueen removed all her expensive coins. This shows even the soccerqueen ID  was set up for fraud. After a few good ratings soccerqueen may start cheating again. The admins should bar soccerqueen as well.

I like Tony's comment.

https://en.numista.com/echanges/profil.php?id=31635

Has anyone informed the admin at Worldcoingalleys about this tosser? He makes clear that the site is one that he infests. Perhaps one his victims should inform the webmaster there as a matter of courtesy. A link to his Numista profile should remove any doubt about the type of bottom feeding parasite he is.

Verweis : torontokuba

Verweis : mic-w-nlHe (or Numista team?) cancelled his (first) account. For the victims, I have his Email, if you want to disturb him some longer...

WOW! How does Numista allow 18 negative feedbacks to take place in 24 days? I wonder who is going to try and beat that record at the expense of Numista members? Until an explanation and real life, feasible deterrents are put in place, I will keep my defenses on high alert. Swapping with the same reliable circle, will be enough for me. What a shame.

Torontokuba is spot on... I will stick to the people I know like jean and Phil. Good reliable swappers I can trust!

Verweis : pnightingaleI like Tony's comment.

https://en.numista.com/echanges/profil.php?id=31635

Has anyone informed the admin at Worldcoingalleys about this tosser? He makes clear that the site is one that he infests. Perhaps one his victims should inform the webmaster there as a matter of courtesy. A link to his Numista profile should remove any doubt about the type of bottom feeding parasite he is.

This person swapose has zero transactions in world coin gallery. I tried to post a warning in world coin gallery but could not figure how to. That site is too complicated

Verweis : bam777

Verweis : szmataThis is incredible!

Was there any alert concerning this guy?

And why did so many people send so many coins as he had no feedback at all?????

When there is no feedback the guy should send his coins first!

This was really not a good case. I was ask to look into it by someone and I did. I discovered that they had a duplicate account. I wrote to swapose asking about this. He/She lied and said it was there 11 year old daughter...I told them off for rating themselves and Xavier removed their rating. The rest was a lot of scamming...but why are people happy to trade with scammers? The moment I see 5 blanks...that is a no no for me.

Hi everybody!

I was the one who asked Ben about these two accounts, I'm glad that I did it, however, at the beggining of the deal with swap*** I gave him my address but he didn't give me his...I think that this kind of situations are a shame but we have to take more caution and always ask new people to send first and suspect when a new member offers rare coins on his swap list, here in Portugal we use a saying "Quando a esmola é grande, o cego desconfia", translated directly means this "When charity is big the blind suspects"

Best regards from Portugal
Jorge

Hello friends,
I think you should be very carefully if you want to swap with these person.

https://en.numista.com/echanges/profil.php?id=3770

Best regards
Holger

I would like to mention that one of my swappers received my coins and acknowledged receiving mine. He has sent his coin by registered post from Chile in Dec-2012. I still have not recevied it. The tracking site says the post is on the way or some vague comment. What should I do. The swapper looks genuine to me.

Wait.

Verweis : madhunagaI would like to mention that one of my swappers received my coins and acknowledged receiving mine. He has sent his coin by registered post from Chile in Dec-2012. I still have not recevied it. The tracking site says the post is on the way or some vague comment. What should I do. The swapper looks genuine to me.

Get in touch with the tracking company.

Of course I agree with you all...

But If this genuine swapper (no doubt about him) sent his coins in December 2012...and if 4 months later they did not arrive...unfortunately something is wrong.

I got cheated by a Lithuanian swapper Ronaldas of almost $300. This person had some 6 good 5 star ratings.
and he sent registration number and then I sent my coins.
Now this person has unsubscribed and I see that all the 6 persons who have given good ratings are new subscribers and not only that they have good ratings given by new subscribers too.
This person ronaldas has taken the precaution of creating all fake ratings and giving the persons who have rated him fake ratings too.
Admin should not allow a member with pending swaps to unsubscribe.
Is there any Lithuanian member in Numista from Kaunas who can check the registration number Ronaldas has given me?

God damned!
If this is true, I'm cheated for the second time in a row in Numista!!!
I have a tracking number as well, but doesn't work in any trace & trace site I tried.
My package is arrived already and he is disappeared from Numista ... Do we still have an Email address? And can the Numista team find out if the 6 "good" feedbacked swappers are coming from the same address?
I guess also here more cheated people, waiting for their coins, will follow....

My Swapper is called "Gabu" from Chile. Knowing South America, I agreed only for registered post. He received mine very fast and gave me 5star rating also. He also has one 5star rating from some other swapper. He has stopped now suddenly answering my messages. It has been 5 months now and I don't think post will arrive. The tracking site says it is stuck in "Planet mars". Can you believe this? Looks weird.

Is there any other feedback about Mr. Gabu?  I still feel he might be genuine and has gone for a while.

Verweis : shamikbI got cheated by a Lithuanian swapper Ronaldas of almost $300. This person had some 6 good 5 star ratings.
and he sent registration number and then I sent my coins.
Now this person has unsubscribed and I see that all the 6 persons who have given good ratings are new subscribers and not only that they have good ratings given by new subscribers too.
This person ronaldas has taken the precaution of creating all fake ratings and giving the persons who have rated him fake ratings too.
Admin should not allow a member with pending swaps to unsubscribe.
Is there any Lithuanian member in Numista from Kaunas who can check the registration number Ronaldas has given me?

This Ronaldas apparently cheated other people....

Please, have a look on the "French" forum " ATTENTION : gros soupçon d'arnaque"...

Jean

Hi,
I've sent a message one week ago to BAM777 about this guy,
who made fake evaluations with fictitious members:

I've asked him to check the IP numbers of these suspicious members, but no reply from BAM...

I've made an alert on the French forum since 10 days about this Lithuanian guy, but it seems that one French member has been cheated by him...

Now, this guy has vanished, but the false members he created are still there !

Please, is there anybody who can ban these members:

Pseudo Country Seniority
Ronaldas Lituania 05/04/2013
Sergio Aguero Argentina 05/04/2013
Chavizo Venezuela 06/04/2013
B Martindale Australia 06/04/2013
Billy Mc Anderson Canada 06/04/2013
Tyrell USA 06/04/2013
De Romani Spain 06/04/2013
Salmanas Bushdie India 06/04/2013
Friedrich Praussler Germany 06/04/2013
Alberto Andela Italia 06/04/2013
Torer Indonésia 08/04/2013
Nyanzo Kenya 08/04/2013
Bjoern2 Sweden 09/04/2013
Thomm Germany 10/04/2013

All are non-existent persons: only accounts created by Ronaldas to get a good evaluation rating !!!

I'm angry about this situation:
I've done several alerts, but several guys have been cheated...

Distressing...

Verweis : asimov37Hi,
I've sent a message one week ago to BAM777 about this guy,
who made fake evaluations with fictitious members:

I've asked him to check the IP numbers of these suspicious members, but no reply from BAM...

I've made an alert on the French forum since 10 days about this Lithuanian guy, but it seems that one French member has been cheated by him...

Now, this guy has vanished, but the false members he created are still there !

Please, is there anybody who can ban these members:

Pseudo Country Seniority
Ronaldas Lituania 05/04/2013
Sergio Aguero Argentina 05/04/2013
Chavizo Venezuela 06/04/2013
B Martindale Australia 06/04/2013
Billy Mc Anderson Canada 06/04/2013
Tyrell USA 06/04/2013
De Romani Spain 06/04/2013
Salmanas Bushdie India 06/04/2013
Friedrich Praussler Germany 06/04/2013
Alberto Andela Italia 06/04/2013
Torer Indonésia 08/04/2013
Nyanzo Kenya 08/04/2013
Bjoern2 Sweden 09/04/2013
Thomm Germany 10/04/2013

All are non-existent persons: only accounts created by Ronaldas to get a good evaluation rating !!!

I'm angry about this situation:
I've done several alerts, but several guys have been cheated...

Distressing...

I will deal with this situation now. I have removed all fictitious members: the only one that remains is Ronaldas.. Do not trust this member.

Verweis : bam777...the only one that remains is Ronaldas.. Do not trust this member.

This one? It says unsubscribed...
https://en.numista.com/echanges/profil.php?id=32206

Verweis : torontokuba

Verweis : bam777...the only one that remains is Ronaldas.. Do not trust this member.

This one? It says unsubscribed...
https://en.numista.com/echanges/profil.php?id=32206

Then I can remove that too!

Anyone catch his address? PM me please with the address.

Verweis : bam777

Verweis : torontokuba

Verweis : bam777...the only one that remains is Ronaldas.. Do not trust this member.

This one? It says unsubscribed...
https://en.numista.com/echanges/profil.php?id=32206

Then I can remove that too!

Anyone catch his address? PM me please with the address.

Do not remove Ronaldas. Let the profile remain as a warning to others.
You may however remove soccerqueen . She has the same address as swapose who cheated around 10 persons. soccerqueen had also listed expensive $20 coins and removed them after I mailed her that I know she is a fraud.
Therefore kindly remove soccerqueen as this ID is sure to be used to cheat other members .
Please do not wait until  soccerqueen cheats people and then remove it.
The address of soccer queen is same as swapose mraposo@telus.blackberry.netis the email address
The address of soccerqueen is same as cheat swapose as below:-

Therefore please remove soccerqueen I am warning in advance

Will deal with this too.

Sic 'em, Baminator

BAM! and the dirt is gone  

Another cheat : DarkArkans from Belgium  wanted me to send him coins worth $200. He promised me many silver Belgian coins. He said he will post on May 8 (he joined on May 7). I told him I will post on May 10. After a day he said his post office his closed and he will post on May 10. Then on May 10 he said his post office is being renovated and he will post on next Wednesday and he asked if I had posted.

I told him that since he does not have any good ratings he will have to send his registration number after which I will post.
He then said that he was joking with me and I need to send him the coins first.

This Dark Arkans has one good rating now from another Belgian collector (which does not mean anything as mostfun has a good rating from his fellow Argentine collector but disappeared after getting a couple of letters).

I suggest in view of the recent cheating by new members like swapose, mostfun, and ronaldas (who also offered expensive coins and then unsubscribed after cheating people), I suggest that the moderator should put a warning on Dark Arkans's profile.

It seems to me that these bastards are becoming more frequent. It's time to fight back.

I'm pretty sure there are no enforceable laws in the thrid world s***holes but in the civilised world it's pretty much illegal. Civil proceedings are a waste of time but I would suggest that those who have been scammed look into the possibility of criminal proceddings in the host country.

In the US these dirtbags could be prosecuted for wire fraud which is a federal offence and carries draconian penalties. I know we have attorneys and paralegals among the membership, perhaps one of them could give a more informed opinion.

Until then, DO NOT TRADE WITH THIRD WORLD COUNTRIES. Don't trade with new members unless they are willing to ship their coins, wait for you to receive them, inspect them and validate them before anything gets mailed back to them. Period. Anyone unwilling to accept these terms is either a halfwit or a thief.

Don't be fooled by a lot of brand new feedback from sock puppet accounts. IF YOU DON'T SEE AT LEAST ONE NAME YOU RECOGNISE TELL THEM TO GTFO.

You guys are just missing the point. The main purpose of Numista is not to swap, catalogue or chat it up on the forum(s), the name of the game is do not get scammed. The ones who do not get scammed the longest, are the clear winners. The rest are losers of rating, coins and can be viewed as suckers.

Verweis : pnightingaleIt seems to me that these bastards are becoming more frequent. It's time to fight back.

I'm pretty sure there are no enforceable laws in the thrid world shitholes but in the civilised world it's pretty much illegal. Civil proceedings are a waste of time but I would suggest that those who have been scammed look into the possibility of criminal proceddings in the host country.

In the US these dirtbags could be prosecuted for wire fraud which is a federal offence and carries draconian penalties. I know we have attorneys and paralegals among the membership, perhaps one of them could give a more informed opinion.

Until then, DO NOT TRADE WITH THIRD WORLD COUNTRIES. Don't trade with new members unless they are willing to ship their coins, wait for you to receive them, inspect them and validate them before anything gets mailed back to them. Period. Anyone unwilling to accept these terms is either a halfwit or a thief.

Don't be fooled by a lot of brand new feedback from sock puppet accounts. IF YOU DON'T SEE AT LEAST ONE NAME YOU RECOGNISE TELL THEM TO GTFO.

I agree 100%. I look for ratings from recognizable names. We know who the legit collectors are and that who you trade with. I don't swap outside of Western Europe/north America. I don't trust the postal services. I really don't understand how people get shafted all the time. Common sense should be our best weapon.

I completely agree with you all...

Jean

The fraudsters are also from Canada, Belgium which is West Europe and north America,
USA the USPS itself steals (see Frank Robinson's coin sale website). So the question is not of trading with third world countries but of reputable traders and countries with enforceable rules.
The USA is a big mess, USPS does not entertain claims for stolen registered mail (please see Frank Robinson's website again where he has listed USPS as a deadbeat).
In India - if you cheat people abroad over internet you can register an offense with the cyber cell of Indian Police and they will track down the person and arrest him .
However in the USA it is very difficult to prosecute people for fraud as Frank Robinson, a reputed
 dealer found out.
Hence if you feel you are  protecting yourself against fraud by restricting trade to North America and West Europe then think again. Check the ratings and you will find most of the frauds are from these continents.

The trick is to identify people who offer very expensive coins and then give fake registration numbers.
One can always ask suspected frauds to send a scan of the coins with the name of the person in the same.
This will screen suspected thieves. I suggest moderators should ask suspect new members to provide a scan of expensive coins along with their user ID in the same image.

To be clear, I can think of several members from India who I have absolutely no doubt are completely legitimate and honest. These are members with as long track record of reliability.

I've been buying, selling, swapping coins for almost 50 years via the Royal Mail and USPS and until very recently had lost exactly two parcels out of thousands. Third world mail service, even according to members from those countries is nothing short of a scandal (see posts above and elsewhere).  The USPS is far from perfect, but considering the effeciency of the rest of the government I think they do a remarkable job.

Yes, Canada and other places have thrown up some unsavoury clowns recently but the fact remains that even a superficial glance is enough to convince anyone who isn't blinded by political correctness that the problem is widespread amongst certain regions. Not just on Numista but on every other coin related website as well. Combined with a postal service which is nothing more than organised theft it's a recipe for loss.

I'm happily non-PC so if the drones wish to call me "rayciss" that's fine by me. In fact to make themselves feel even more morally superior I would encourage them to make very large and expensive trades to show their solidarity and lack of hypocrisy. They can even send a few extra coins to make up for the ones I won't be mailing.

If the Indian police are able or willing to prosecute fraud then why is Haroon Akhbar still at large?  He has swindled thousands of coins from hundreds of people using a variety of aliases and mailing addresses over a period of many years. He even has an account or two here. Despite being pretty much a full time crook he has never faced a single charge.

I don't think that asking new members to provide expensive coin pictures will work, new collectors and the young don't have such coins. The solution in my view is this:

When you sign up for an account you enter your full mailing address. At the conclusion of a swap you click a simple "provide address" button and the other party gets a message populated by the information you entered when creating an account. Anyone accepting info by any other method would do so at their own risk. Duplicate accounts could be picked out without the headaches of IP scans by simple field matching and serial swindlers would find it impossible to operate. User IDs are a dime a dozen as evidenced by the recent rash of sock puppets, mailing addresses are a little more difficult.

Verweis : pnightingaleTo be clear, I can think of several members from India who I have absolutely no doubt are completely legitimate and honest. These are members with as long track record of reliability.

I've been buying, selling, swapping coins for almost 50 years via the Royal Mail and USPS and until very recently had lost exactly two parcels out of thousands. Third world mail service, even according to members from those countries is nothing short of a scandal (see posts above and elsewhere).  The USPS is far from perfect, but considering the effeciency of the rest of the government I think they do a remarkable job.

Yes, Canada and other places have thrown up some unsavoury clowns recently but the fact remains that even a superficial glance is enough to convince anyone who isn't blinded by political correctness that the problem is widespread amongst certain regions. Not just on Numista but on every other coin related website as well. Combined with a postal service which is nothing more than organised theft it's a recipe for loss.

I'm happily non-PC so if the drones wish to call me "rayciss" that's fine by me. In fact to make themselves feel even more morally superior I would encourage them to make very large and expensive trades to show their solidarity and lack of hypocrisy. They can even send a few extra coins to make up for the ones I won't be mailing.

USPS is one of the worst postal systems in the world I am afraid. I have no issues with Royal Mail however USPS takes 30 days to send a Express letter out of the US. I have been swapping for the last 15 years by mail and USPS  has been the only service which has actually lost mail and even lost registered mail apart from Venezuela Post which could be classified as third world.

Third world services - I have had problems with  Russia which have long delays (6 months to deliver reg'd letters) however the only third world country which has actually lost mails so far is Venezuela. Colombia also has a bad reputation I am told.
However USPS universally is known as a poor service provider hence USA citizens have nothing to crow about.
Reputed USA dealers like Frank Robinson have listed USPS as deadbeat in their websites and Steve Album has also blacklisted the Express Mail service of USPS

Verweis : shamikbAnother cheat : DarkArkans from Belgium  wanted me to send him coins worth $200 . He promised me many  silver Belgian coins. He said he will post on May 8 ( He joined on May 7). I told him I will post on May 10. After   a day he said his post office his closed and he will post on May 10. Then on May 10 he said his post office is being renovated and he will post on next wednesday and he asked if I had posted.

I told him that since he does not have any good ratings he will have to send his registration no. after which I will post.
He then said that he was joking with me and  I need to send him the coins first.

This Dark Arkans has one  good rating now from another Belgian collector ( which does not mean anything as mostfun has a good rating from his fellow Argentine collector but disappeared after getting a couple of letters).

I suggest in view of the recent cheating by new members like swapose,mostfun  and ronaldas (who  also offered expensive coins and then unsubscribed after cheating people), I suggest that the moderator should put a warning on Dark Arkans's profile

DarkArkans have emailed a photo of a coin from e-bay and not one of his coin
I think I'll skip this swap
 Darkarkans

And E-bay

Verweis : minor

Verweis : shamikbAnother cheat : DarkArkans from Belgium  wanted me to send him coins worth $200 . He promised me many  silver Belgian coins. He said he will post on May 8 ( He joined on May 7). I told him I will post on May 10. After   a day he said his post office his closed and he will post on May 10. Then on May 10 he said his post office is being renovated and he will post on next wednesday and he asked if I had posted.

I told him that since he does not have any good ratings he will have to send his registration no. after which I will post.
He then said that he was joking with me and  I need to send him the coins first.

This Dark Arkans has one  good rating now from another Belgian collector ( which does not mean anything as mostfun has a good rating from his fellow Argentine collector but disappeared after getting a couple of letters).

I suggest in view of the recent cheating by new members like swapose,mostfun  and ronaldas (who  also offered expensive coins and then unsubscribed after cheating people), I suggest that the moderator should put a warning on Dark Arkans's profile

DarkArkans have emailed a photo of a coin from e-bay and not one of his coin
I think I'll skip this swap
 Darkarkans

And E-bay

Be very careful of Dark Arkans. I accused him of being a cheat and to send me scans of the expensive coins he had offered. He has read the mail but did not reply.

I think moderator should take preemptive action against Dark Arkans and ask him to show proof that he has the expensive coins he is offering or else bar him.

Concerning this Dark ADams

Don't send any coin!

Wait until he sends his...and you reveive them, and then send yours!

If he does not agree...no swap!