I'm not sure if there's already a thread about this, but if there is, there's two now.
Unfortunately there are unhonest people around us whose only purpose is to fool and steal others coins.
I'm not sure how they are treated here by the site, but I think that we, the honest people, should warn and inform each other!
Unfortunately I've been in contact with a swindler. Totally unaware of this I decided to send first, since I've just had good experiences so far by the site. And of course he was an dishonest man. The member I'm talking about is ******. I now his real name, well, at least the name he gave me, but I'm not gonna reveal it here. I just want to warn everyone for him!
*******
[Myszu2 removed name for violation of forum rules: "Do not discuss your problems with other members via the forum; please use private messaging." ]
The black list of swindlers
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He/she simply will register under different combination of numbers/letters and start it over. 
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Verweis : sccedaHe/she simply will register under different combination of numbers/letters and start it over.why don you black the IP?
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okay, the guy i'm talking about has the same name as the green little...thing..in starwars..his name ends with three numbers, the first two are the same as donald duck has on his car, the last one is the first digit times two :)
he has also deleted his profile, so yes, he's a swindler! but, he's living in the uk, so i've been thinking of to take a flight over and pay him a visit, since he left his address..i wonder what he would say.....
he has also deleted his profile, so yes, he's a swindler! but, he's living in the uk, so i've been thinking of to take a flight over and pay him a visit, since he left his address..i wonder what he would say.....
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This is why I don't swap. I will pay you money and when you get the money send me the coins. Isn't it simple?? I had a terrible experience with a Canadian seller with whom I was in touch with, we discussed few things, he suggested few things, I wasn't game and without even sending and agreeing on a swap request he accused me of cheating him. 
No money exchanged, no agreement whatsoever, no swap request sent or accepted still I was blamed. 
Old story, lesson learnt and I am much wiser now.
I only post, interact, share and learn. No swapping for me please. I am scared to swap here honestly.
No money exchanged, no agreement whatsoever, no swap request sent or accepted still I was blamed. Old story, lesson learnt and I am much wiser now.I only post, interact, share and learn. No swapping for me please. I am scared to swap here honestly.
Warm Regards,
Mayank
Country: Mumbai, India
My want list: http://en.numista.com/forum/topic6830.html
Mayank
Country: Mumbai, India
My want list: http://en.numista.com/forum/topic6830.html
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Verweis I did have a look at your swap list, Dixxy, but there isn't enough there to make it worth the postage from the UK to North America. Perhaps if you add some more to your list in the future ...Anything from here to Europe is fairly priced I think at least... $10 dollars Canadian, (7.65 euro's) for air mail (250 grams max) and it gets there in 2 or less weeks. My swap list is pretty... Bleah. Although, It does continue to change. sadly though, it is current and up to date. Actually brought a bit of shock to me someone wanted to swap at all...
I actually found this website through google while I was trying to identify Asian coins. quite a few of my Taiwan coins were mislabeled, I had actually labelled my Switzerland coins "Helvetica," In all honesty, I was looking for a decent database to utilize in identifying my world collection. To swap coins with other members worldwide? I find this a perk more than a selling feature. It is a perk I hope to take advantage of...
My swap list will always continue to grow. I also am willing to take requests. I know all the ins and outs of my local dealers. There may not be much I can get that you can't, but it's always good to know that if you can't find that Canadian or American coin you've been dreaming about... Hi... I live near there...
Then again... some Canadians have apparently put a black mark on me too...
lol.......
I might just have to send out some coins for nothing i think... Free stars... jks. I'll be honest with you if your honest with me. That's the rules I live by.
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I would have a perfect 5 star record if it wasn't for a scammer trying to scam me on my third swap -
he's the only one with 3 stars telling me he had posted them, then 5 days after said he would post them,, I cancelled swap (his first swap) and gave negative feedback, he gave ME BAD FEEDBACK TOO,, CHEEK OR WHAT
I will only swap, if they contact me they send their coins first, and if any of value over £50 registered and insured but if I post from UK normal airmail, with Royal Mail it's SUPPOSED to be covered for loss up to price of 100 first class stamps which is £46
do you not have this on your normal AIRMAIL service?????
Airmail (inc. Airletters and airmail packs) Actual loss up to £46 or the market value, whichever is the lower. No Consequential Loss available. Certificate of posting required. Apply within 6 months from posting.
Not sure about coins, but if a parcel does go missing I'll say something else was in it that I know is covered, to regain my losses somehow
Why can't my record be put right - I cancelled the swap
the guy may not be a swindler at all but he did say he had posted them when he hadnt, so he lied to me
but after 2 swaps he got 0 stars off me(me likewise 0 stars)
and 5 stars off his other swap
so i dont really think it fair he has now got a warning on his profile page saying
ATTENTION:
THIS MEMBER RECEIVED VERY NEGATIVE RATINGS FROM OTHER MEMBERS.
HE MIGHT BE A SWINDLER.
YOUS SHOULD BE VERY CAREFUL IF YOU WANT TO SWAP COINS WITH HIM.
LOVE NUMISTA
he's the only one with 3 stars telling me he had posted them, then 5 days after said he would post them,, I cancelled swap (his first swap) and gave negative feedback, he gave ME BAD FEEDBACK TOO,, CHEEK OR WHAT
I will only swap, if they contact me they send their coins first, and if any of value over £50 registered and insured but if I post from UK normal airmail, with Royal Mail it's SUPPOSED to be covered for loss up to price of 100 first class stamps which is £46
do you not have this on your normal AIRMAIL service?????
Airmail (inc. Airletters and airmail packs) Actual loss up to £46 or the market value, whichever is the lower. No Consequential Loss available. Certificate of posting required. Apply within 6 months from posting.
Not sure about coins, but if a parcel does go missing I'll say something else was in it that I know is covered, to regain my losses somehow
Why can't my record be put right - I cancelled the swap
the guy may not be a swindler at all but he did say he had posted them when he hadnt, so he lied to me
but after 2 swaps he got 0 stars off me(me likewise 0 stars)
and 5 stars off his other swap
so i dont really think it fair he has now got a warning on his profile page saying
ATTENTION:
THIS MEMBER RECEIVED VERY NEGATIVE RATINGS FROM OTHER MEMBERS.
HE MIGHT BE A SWINDLER.
YOUS SHOULD BE VERY CAREFUL IF YOU WANT TO SWAP COINS WITH HIM.
LOVE NUMISTA
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CLUE 2 ??????
hope you didnt get stung for much,,,flipping LOWLIFES
why give him 2 stars???????
he may be dead and not a lowlife ??????
hope you didnt get stung for much,,,flipping LOWLIFES
why give him 2 stars???????
he may be dead and not a lowlife ??????
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Verweis : pennyennepCLUE 2 ??????Clue 2: the mostly round things made from metal that word in plural.
hope you didnt get stung for much,,,flipping LOWLIFES
why give him 2 stars???????
Another silly clue: Copper Is Often Not Shiny but green. I swapped some euro's and some older (pre 1930) coins for a set of Estonian eurocoins.
I gave him 2 stars because...because I've difficulties with giving not a single star at all, I mean...oh, I don't know
, I probably should have done that. But you're right: 2 stars is still too much, one or none would have been more appropriate.
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Verweis : james wolfeThis is not a nice thing to say. Maybe he could be depressed and actually do it himself.to bad you can hang him !!!
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its better to swap with good rating or only few stars?
for me,without any rating here, is not problem to send coins first,much bigger problem if they think im amateur and for good coins offer me bargain coins,and formula 1 for 1,or for silver offer me coins minted in 100000000000 pieces
that is,in my unexperience i send on colnect coins worth about 25$,and i take coins worth 3$ 1 for 1,in 3 different cases im damaged in worth,but that is price of unexperience,learning on hard way
for me,without any rating here, is not problem to send coins first,much bigger problem if they think im amateur and for good coins offer me bargain coins,and formula 1 for 1,or for silver offer me coins minted in 100000000000 pieces
that is,in my unexperience i send on colnect coins worth about 25$,and i take coins worth 3$ 1 for 1,in 3 different cases im damaged in worth,but that is price of unexperience,learning on hard way
Emiliano
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have you any more silver coins to swap i have some chocolate money ill swap you
i got the clu E ST raight away as i is clever,
but asked for another clue for the dummys(you know who you are)
and????Copper Is Often Not Shiny???? or rather Copper Often Is Not Shiny
sorry couldnt resist this time, although many times i have managed to resist sharing my humour,,on this forum, so dont think too bad of me 
i got the clu E ST raight away as i is clever,
but asked for another clue for the dummys(you know who you are)
and????Copper Is Often Not Shiny???? or rather Copper Often Is Not Shiny
sorry couldnt resist this time, although many times i have managed to resist sharing my humour,,on this forum, so dont think too bad of me
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Verweis : bam777Once again I can appreciate your sentiments: suss out the scammers. Small swaps first.
With respect.
im confused who,s sentiments are you appreciating
also what ever happened to FREE SPEECH
i thought the rules were you cannot use the SCAMMERS name, not , you cant talk about the scammers and if you do you will be silenced by the Numista gestapo, or you get subtle warnings like the following quote
I re-iterate my point. No more comments are advised on this.
I think this matter need no further comments (where do you live the moon)
maybe you THINK this matter need NO FURTHER COMMENTS and thats your opinion, and your welcome to it,but other members may think different and who are you to warn about not making any further comments as long as the member breaks no rules by typing the actual names,even if you are in the numista team,,the thread is about different scammers, not focused on one scammer
what if another member has been scammed by the same SCAMMER and your warning people to make NO FURTHER COMMENTS,,im not trying to cause stink here but you should look at what you wrote, why try to conceal the dirty deeds that have been done by scammers,members should be allowed to give as many comments on any matter they wish as long as they dont break any rules,
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Verweis : pennyennepHaving read what I previously wrote I understood it to be slightly ambiguous and re-posted a slightly different message. To be honest, I doubt the light heartedness of the thread as a whole. I draw attention to Probert's comment on 19th January. I am not trying to silence anyone, however, I am not sure all the comments are helpful to the cool headed and well mannered forum that we usually have.Verweis : bam777Once again I can appreciate your sentiments: suss out the scammers. Small swaps first.
With respect.
im confused who,s sentiments are you appreciating
also what ever happened to FREE SPEECH
i thought the rules were you cannot use the SCAMMERS name, not , you cant talk about the scammers and if you do you will be silenced by the Numista gestapo, or you get subtle warnings like the following quote
I re-iterate my point. No more comments are advised on this.
I think this matter need no further comments (where do you live the moon)
maybe you THINK this matter need NO FURTHER COMMENTS and thats your opinion, and your welcome to it,but other members may think different and who are you to warn about not making any further comments as long as the member breaks no rules by typing the actual names,even if you are in the numista team,,the thread is about different scammers, not focused on one scammer
what if another member has been scammed by the same SCAMMER and your warning people to make NO FURTHER COMMENTS,,im not trying to cause stink here but you should look at what you wrote, why try to conceal the dirty deeds that have been done by scammers,members should be allowed to give as many comments on any matter they wish as long as they dont break any rules,
I appreciate being shown some respect and don't know that I favour being likened to a secret police of any form. I openly demonstrate where I moderate the forum and I try my best to do it with respect for all members.
I don't agree with scamming people and wouldn't even dream of trying that kind of thing on anyone. I felt the clues were enough and I didn't think (with capital letters if you like) that it was necessary to continue with the continuation of comments on the same member.
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Verweis : aswqMisters,
I want to consult on you.
Here very strange situation -
the partner told me number it to reg. letters. Two weeks later I looked on a site of post department and such letter isn't present. The partner reported his letter lost. I suggested it to choose two options:
- to send repeatedly to me coins,
- to pay my coins,
after that the partner doesn't answer my letters.
Two questions:
1. The letter from a site of post department can disappear even if it is lost then?
2. Partner thief?
how good is russia post??? 
james
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As a newbie, you should be willing to do 3 or 4 small swaps by sending your coins first. I would recommend that you first trade with highly rated members. There is no sure way to be 100% guaranteed. My first trades were very successful, but I got cheated on my last 2 swaps. After complaining about being cheated, they both gave me poor ratings which made me look bad.
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yeah my first scam was from a guy from brazil 
he has zero stars so i guess theres no risk but he could easily just make a new account.
he has zero stars so i guess theres no risk but he could easily just make a new account. Numista referee for Canada and Estonia.
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Same thing
Cheated by a brazilian guy, fortunately we're talking about less $10
Cheated by a brazilian guy, fortunately we're talking about less $10
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Verweis : pnightingaleGestapo bam777!!!! I think if you get to know Ben you will find him an unlikely recruit to the Reichsfuhrer's ranks although he is rumored to have a real mean death stare.
Verweis : pnightingaleI'm pretty much laid back and relaxed, this is my hobby so I don't partake in drama. If you are looking to screw every last cent out of a deal or looking for conflict over a few Sheldon Points... please move on.Since someone already said it better, I might as well support the same approach. Nicely stated.
I am disappointed at pnightingale's lack of trading north of the border. Maybe someday, NAFTA will apply to his coins.
Anyone with a stack of positives, deserves to have the coins sent to him/her first. They must have earned it, especially if they had a bad experience with a Canadian.
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Verweis : DixxyIn all honesty, I was looking for a decent database to utilize in identifying my world collection.
Verweis : CeruleanI came here to manage my collection online, not expressly to trade.I, on the other hand, do not see a need for showing off my collection. My memory serves me well. Less is more and having a manageable amount of great looking coins, costs the same as hoarding all the junk you come across. Any cleaned coins purchased from deceptive eBay auction photos, any worse condition coins for which I've acquired a better replacement, any duplicates that do not fall into my style of collecting, I try to let go and trade. For me, Numista is all about swaps/trades. One man's junk is another man's treasure and only the guy/gal
with all authentic NGC/PCGS MS-70's has little to look forward to.I have never been swindled. In any conversation you get to know the other person. There are plenty of tell-tale signs that inform you of who you're dealing with. There is no harm in backing out of a trade if you do not feel comfortable. Reasons for this range from age, level of maturity to lack of co-operation and unreasonable demands. Sometimes, it's as simple as not seeing eye to eye on value or swap procedure. Asking tough, straight forward questions, even at the risk of sounding a bit rude, isn't a bad idea.
I can tell you one thing, I would gladly take my first swindle, if I could get back the long list of coins and other stuff, which I seem to have donated to the employees of the Polish and Italian Post Offices. They don't even have the courtesy to issue a tax receipt for the donations.
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Verweis : torontokubaYou are too kind my dear fellowVerweis : pnightingaleGestapo bam777!!!! I think if you get to know Ben you will find him an unlikely recruit to the Reichsfuhrer's ranks although he is rumored to have a real mean death stare.
Verweis : pnightingaleI'm pretty much laid back and relaxed, this is my hobby so I don't partake in drama. If you are looking to screw every last cent out of a deal or looking for conflict over a few Sheldon Points... please move on.Since someone already said it better, I might as well support the same approach. Nicely stated.
I am disappointed at pnightingale's lack of trading north of the border. Maybe someday, NAFTA will apply to his coins.
Anyone with a stack of positives, deserves to have the coins sent to him/her first. They must have earned it, especially if they had a bad experience with a Canadian.
Never had a bad experience with a Canadian, just one with either the USPS or Canada Post. We never could work out what went wrong but the coins never arrived and the collector in question is not someone who would mislead me. So we will work something out eventually. Canadians, Brits, French, Germans, Yanquis, Dutch...... nobody ever has a problem it seems.
Non illegitimis carborundum est. Excellent advice for all coins.
Make Numismatics Great Again!
Make Numismatics Great Again!
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The escape artist has received some posiitive feedback from a new member from the same country who has made 100% of his trades with Mr H. I wonder if they are related
https://en.numista.com/echanges/profil.php?id=25534
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sockpuppet_(Internet)
https://en.numista.com/echanges/profil.php?id=25534
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sockpuppet_(Internet)
Non illegitimis carborundum est. Excellent advice for all coins.
Make Numismatics Great Again!
Make Numismatics Great Again!
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Verweis : pnightingaleThe escape artist has received some posiitive feedback from a new member from the same country who has made 100% of his trades with Mr H. I wonder if they are related ;)These people must think we just came down with the last shower
Just because you can't see it ... doesn't mean it isn't there - Anon.
Former coin and banknote catalogue referee.
Former coin and banknote catalogue referee.
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Verweis : pnightingaleThe escape artist has received some posiitive feedback from a new member from the same country who has made 100% of his trades with Mr H. I wonder if they are relatedThanks to Xavier for his quick cooperation
https://en.numista.com/echanges/profil.php?id=25534
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Verweis : didi83Be aware of user with n~~k s~~a , I did not received his letter after 30 days, also some others collectors did not received coins from himYes, I'm afraid he swindled me too
He received my coins after a couple of weeks and had said he sent his coins 6 weeks ago but now he has stopped communicating so I can only assume the worst. It is unfortunate, but I will now only swap with members with low or zero feedback if they send first.
Just because you can't see it ... doesn't mean it isn't there - Anon.
Former coin and banknote catalogue referee.
Former coin and banknote catalogue referee.
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Verweis : radrick007I don't know how these sleazeballs can look themselves in the face.Verweis : didi83Be aware of user with n~~k s~~a , I did not received his letter after 30 days, also some others collectors did not received coins from himYes, I'm afraid he swindled me too
He received my coins after a couple of weeks and had said he sent his coins 6 weeks ago but now he has stopped communicating so I can only assume the worst. It is unfortunate, but I will now only swap with members with low or zero feedback if they send first.
If things continue unchecked I fear we will end up with collectors from Northern Europe, the US, Canada, Oz and NZ trading exclusively with each other.
Non illegitimis carborundum est. Excellent advice for all coins.
Make Numismatics Great Again!
Make Numismatics Great Again!
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Numista allows negative ratings and warnings, that is pointing the finger, whether it's the team/site or a member giving a swap review. You allow these things as daily operations on Numista. As long as someone isn't providing private info (address, name, ph, email etc.), there is no deviation from the policy. If you decide that there is no negative discussion about users, using their nicknames, please shut down all the topics that are an outlet for this type of discussion. Using nicknames only in a positive light is allowed, for now.
Verweis : bam777I understand...I just know that people might see me as protecting the scammers...but that isn't what I'm doing!No, you are protecting a contradiction or double standard on Numista, it can't be enforced by editing nicknames.
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Please take my comments in stride, I'm serious but not disgruntled , I do not mean to offend.
I don't have time for clues, either you're here to help me not get screwed or you're an obstacle. Reading the forum policy, this topic shouldn't exist, it is bound to hurt the feelings of some swindlers.
If this topic is to remain active with clues, I kindly request that all previous complainers edit their posts by inserting a link to a Numista warning (where avail.) and all new complainers include a link to a Numista warning (where avail.). Please refrain from using nicknames or making comments that are contrary to site policy, under this topic.
, I do not mean to offend.I don't have time for clues, either you're here to help me not get screwed or you're an obstacle. Reading the forum policy, this topic shouldn't exist, it is bound to hurt the feelings of some swindlers.
If this topic is to remain active with clues, I kindly request that all previous complainers edit their posts by inserting a link to a Numista warning (where avail.) and all new complainers include a link to a Numista warning (where avail.). Please refrain from using nicknames or making comments that are contrary to site policy, under this topic.
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Verweis : ngdawaWhy is the names deleted? Without the names it's no point of warning people?Someone already said it better.
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Verweis : torontokubaThe problem is the moderator doesn't make the rules, he can only interpret them in the most sensible way possible, which to be fair is what he is doing. Believe me I'm with you 100%, name and shame 'em.Verweis : ngdawaWhy is the names deleted? Without the names it's no point of warning people?Someone already said it better.
It's a call for Xavier to make though. The rules served us well when we were a smaller community and everyone knew each other, bad apples could be identified pretty quickly and word passed around by PM. Now Numista features very highly in search engine rankings and is growing rapidly so it's a lot more difficult to know who is who. What may seem sensible to the users (publishing names, addresses, etc.) may be a potential legal minefield for the site owner.
Perhaps it's time to either reinterpret the rules or change them entirely to make it easier to identify potential problems BEFORE they scam a dozen people? Quite how you do that without exposing individuals to malicious and unfounded innuendo is worthy of further discussion.
To be clear, Numista still remains largely free of thievery, scamming and other embuggeration. Let's all continue to do our best to keep it that way and allow the moderators and admins time to think about the matter. Until then, if we have to follow a trail of breadcrumbs, so be it.
Non illegitimis carborundum est. Excellent advice for all coins.
Make Numismatics Great Again!
Make Numismatics Great Again!
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Verweis : bam777Interesting. You have named and shamed again...I've modified it. What happens if I do it a third time?
Verweis : torontokubaI am disappointed at pn---------le's lack of trading north of the border. Maybe someday, NAFTA will apply to his coins.You were right, I've named and shamed before. I wouldn't leave this guy alone until he traded with me. My favourite part of his profile is under "What he/she collects", he writes "Interesting cons from just about anywhere will also be considred." This guy makes my day every time we correspond.
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